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Making the logo program optional is just plain stupid. If a cable supports 40gb or 80gb but otherwise looks exactly the same, that’s just bad. Having s logo pro

Making the logo program optional is just plain stupid. If a cable supports 40gb or 80gb but otherwise looks exactly the same, that’s just bad. Having s logo program to fix this, but not requiring it is even worse - it shows you see the problem but really don’t care about users enough to fix it.

mortenjorck 4y ago
In practice, this will likely mean $30 Belkin cables have logos, while $10 cables from Amazon sellers with randomly-generated all-caps names do not.
- hedora 4y ago
  If USB 2 and 3 are anything to go by, there will be even odds the non-logo cable works and the logo cable does not.
dannyw 4y ago
USB has always eered to being as permissionless as possible.
bergenty 4y ago
It’s a standard I don’t understand why they don’t pick the upper limit in the ranges for each thing and make it the standard. All these “options” mean it won’t be interchangeable.
binkHN 4y ago
I couldn't agree more. It just creates an unlimited amount of confusion. Here's a write-up about a Google engineer that bounced his head across numerous related issues as I couldn't readily find much of his content today: https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2016/02/google-engineer-finds-usb-type-c-cable-thats-so-bad-it-fried-his-chromebook-pixel/ https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2016/02/google-engineer-find...
CoastalCoder 4y ago
I have mixed feelings about this. The main problems I've had with HDMI and USB cables are (a) buying cables that I'm sure meet my requirements, and (b) trying to figure out if the cable is to blame when debugging poor results. If there's a trustworthy logo program, that should help. As long as retailers don't try to obscure the logo status of the products.
kyaghmour 4y ago
This mess is already there with existing USB-C cables. See: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/electr/c2c-caberqu-usb-c-cable-tester https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/electr/c2c-caberqu-usb-...

mortenjorck 4y ago

In practice, this will likely mean $30 Belkin cables have logos, while $10 cables from Amazon sellers with randomly-generated all-caps names do not.

hedora 4y ago
If USB 2 and 3 are anything to go by, there will be even odds the non-logo cable works and the logo cable does not.

dannyw 4y ago

USB has always eered to being as permissionless as possible.

bergenty 4y ago

It’s a standard I don’t understand why they don’t pick the upper limit in the ranges for each thing and make it the standard. All these “options” mean it won’t be interchangeable.

binkHN 4y ago

I couldn't agree more. It just creates an unlimited amount of confusion. Here's a write-up about a Google engineer that bounced his head across numerous related issues as I couldn't readily find much of his content today: https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2016/02/google-engineer-finds-usb-type-c-cable-thats-so-bad-it-fried-his-chromebook-pixel/ https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2016/02/google-engineer-find...

CoastalCoder 4y ago

I have mixed feelings about this. The main problems I've had with HDMI and USB cables are (a) buying cables that I'm sure meet my requirements, and (b) trying to figure out if the cable is to blame when debugging poor results. If there's a trustworthy logo program, that should help. As long as retailers don't try to obscure the logo status of the products.

kyaghmour 4y ago

This mess is already there with existing USB-C cables. See: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/electr/c2c-caberqu-usb-c-cable-tester https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/electr/c2c-caberqu-usb-...