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>Historian Warren Susman said that a “culture of character” gave way to a “culture of personality” and “every American was to become a performing self.” I rece

>Historian Warren Susman said that a “culture of character” gave way to a “culture of personality” and “every American was to become a performing self.” I recently came across a post asking Irish what was one American thing they were happy about had not yet seeped into Ireland much and one of the answers was the seeming fake-ness and exaggerated excitement

withinboredom 4y ago
> exaggerated excitement Recently had some American friends visit. They were yelling across a nice restaurant at each other. It was so embarrassing, especially because I'm originally American.
- mancerayder 4y ago
  Americans are extremely loud, both the people and the behaviors. People talk loudly, but it's not just that - restaurants blast music, shops even blast music. There's nothing more strange than going to a fancy wine bar and having hip hop or some garbage bass music being blasted so people basically have to yell at each other. How'd it get to this point?
  - porknubbins 4y ago
    I would ask how did Europe not get to that point? Anything in America that gets coded as upper/upper middle class culture is attacked as being snobby, bourgeois, or elitist.
    - withinboredom 4y ago
      Bars, restaurants, cafes didn’t buy Sonos and turn the music up so loud you can’t have a conversation without yelling.
- 0x20cowboy 4y ago
  I’ll just leave this here: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BGc3zFOFI-s https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BGc3zFOFI-s (American tourists go for breakfast)
FunnyBadger 4y ago
The Epic Fail of the internet is that it gave people voices even when they are mentally ill or prone to criminality. Look at most of the worst of the internet today and you can distill all that down to these two things. Why was the early internet great? Number one reason was its exclusivity and lack of these base elements. Internet for all gave everyone equal access including those who should not have.

withinboredom 4y ago

> exaggerated excitement Recently had some American friends visit. They were yelling across a nice restaurant at each other. It was so embarrassing, especially because I'm originally American.

mancerayder 4y ago
Americans are extremely loud, both the people and the behaviors. People talk loudly, but it's not just that - restaurants blast music, shops even blast music. There's nothing more strange than going to a fancy wine bar and having hip hop or some garbage bass music being blasted so people basically have to yell at each other. How'd it get to this point?
- porknubbins 4y ago
  I would ask how did Europe not get to that point? Anything in America that gets coded as upper/upper middle class culture is attacked as being snobby, bourgeois, or elitist.
  - withinboredom 4y ago
    Bars, restaurants, cafes didn’t buy Sonos and turn the music up so loud you can’t have a conversation without yelling.
0x20cowboy 4y ago
I’ll just leave this here: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BGc3zFOFI-s https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BGc3zFOFI-s (American tourists go for breakfast)

FunnyBadger 4y ago

The Epic Fail of the internet is that it gave people voices even when they are mentally ill or prone to criminality. Look at most of the worst of the internet today and you can distill all that down to these two things. Why was the early internet great? Number one reason was its exclusivity and lack of these base elements. Internet for all gave everyone equal access including those who should not have.