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You should get your full ticket back + the EU compensation - 1/3. No worries, I did this a few years back and the process took a while but I got the money. Al

You should get your full ticket back + the EU compensation - 1/3. No worries, I did this a few years back and the process took a while but I got the money. Also, the EU compensation is rather handsome, especially on a long flight like that, you mention 1800 EUR, how much was the ticket originally?

wheels 4y ago
My flights were for me and my kids. Total of €2700. One of the flights was booked separately (because booking together didn't work on any of the websites I tried), though also American Airlines, and I won't get a refund on that. The €1200 that I'll get will only cover the extra missed flight, and my Airbnb. And that doesn't scratch that I had to find new summer vacation plans with my kids on one day's notice. That is not no worries.
- clipper_janosch 4y ago
  Look, I am sorry this happened, but you should get the total 2700 EUR back + compensation. "though also American Airlines, and I won't get a refund on that" <-- you should double check this, if one of the airports is in the EU you get everything back for your departure flight. https://realworldmachine.com/travel/airline/eu-flight-compensation-calculator/ https://realworldmachine.com/travel/airline/eu-flight-compen... "Flights must either arrive into the EU via an EU-headquartered airline or originate from the EU (regardless of airline headquarters) for the EU Flight Compensation Regulation to be applicable." Obviously they will tell you otherwise. Funny how people call me privileged etc. but you literally fill out a web form with flight number, upload your tickets and the solicitors handle the rest and the money gets dropped into your account within 6 months or so. It's a lot of money, of course the Airlines are going to try to wiggle themselves out of it, so you have to fight them to get your right. I think you will get 2700 EUR back for sure, flight compensation as well and you might even be able to claim for the BnB.
teh_klev 4y ago
> No worries, I did this a few years back and the process took a while but I got the money. "No worries", that's perhaps fine if you have access to large amounts of cash or credit to fund replacement flights whilst you wait until the airline finally pulls its finger out. And what then if the replacement flights you booked get cancelled at the last minute? Now you're out thousands of euros. So no, it's not "no worries".
- ClumsyPilot 4y ago
  I used to hate the word 'privilidge', but it applies here perfectly. Like a person who has spare $10,000 laying around and a lawyer on retainer can't even fathom how this is a problem. Maybe you lost $3000 of tickets for a family flight, and booking replacement tickets will costs 2x as much because you are booking short notice. And maybe if you cant get replacement tickets, now you loose $5,000 of hotel, so now your total losses are 8k. And if you don't know the law and don't have legslly literste friends, maybe you never get compensation Also known as poverty premium
  - javajosh 4y ago
    Players of RTS games will note that this is why you have to build resource storage as well as extraction - storage functions as a "shock absorber" that saves you money in the long run. (A consumer credit line is, for example, a kind of virtual/worse type of storage that is, ironically, not even available unless you already have significant flow.)
    - 3pt14159 4y ago
      Well, it's more that resource storage allows adaptivity rather than being a shock absorber, per se. For example, in the fog of war or the early game we don't know if the enemy is teching, econo-expanding, or rushing. In the mid-game we know an attack is coming, but we're uncertain its unit composition. So in the early game we store some resources while we scout. If we see them teching we can dump everything into military expansion since they'll have neither the army nor the production to counter any attack. Same idea for mid-game: knights -> build pikeman, archers -> build knights. If it were merely about shock absorption we may as well have dumped it all into walls, archers, and castles.

wheels 4y ago

My flights were for me and my kids. Total of €2700. One of the flights was booked separately (because booking together didn't work on any of the websites I tried), though also American Airlines, and I won't get a refund on that. The €1200 that I'll get will only cover the extra missed flight, and my Airbnb. And that doesn't scratch that I had to find new summer vacation plans with my kids on one day's notice. That is not no worries.

clipper_janosch 4y ago
Look, I am sorry this happened, but you should get the total 2700 EUR back + compensation. "though also American Airlines, and I won't get a refund on that" <-- you should double check this, if one of the airports is in the EU you get everything back for your departure flight. https://realworldmachine.com/travel/airline/eu-flight-compensation-calculator/ https://realworldmachine.com/travel/airline/eu-flight-compen... "Flights must either arrive into the EU via an EU-headquartered airline or originate from the EU (regardless of airline headquarters) for the EU Flight Compensation Regulation to be applicable." Obviously they will tell you otherwise. Funny how people call me privileged etc. but you literally fill out a web form with flight number, upload your tickets and the solicitors handle the rest and the money gets dropped into your account within 6 months or so. It's a lot of money, of course the Airlines are going to try to wiggle themselves out of it, so you have to fight them to get your right. I think you will get 2700 EUR back for sure, flight compensation as well and you might even be able to claim for the BnB.

teh_klev 4y ago

> No worries, I did this a few years back and the process took a while but I got the money. "No worries", that's perhaps fine if you have access to large amounts of cash or credit to fund replacement flights whilst you wait until the airline finally pulls its finger out. And what then if the replacement flights you booked get cancelled at the last minute? Now you're out thousands of euros. So no, it's not "no worries".

ClumsyPilot 4y ago
I used to hate the word 'privilidge', but it applies here perfectly. Like a person who has spare $10,000 laying around and a lawyer on retainer can't even fathom how this is a problem. Maybe you lost $3000 of tickets for a family flight, and booking replacement tickets will costs 2x as much because you are booking short notice. And maybe if you cant get replacement tickets, now you loose $5,000 of hotel, so now your total losses are 8k. And if you don't know the law and don't have legslly literste friends, maybe you never get compensation Also known as poverty premium
- javajosh 4y ago
  Players of RTS games will note that this is why you have to build resource storage as well as extraction - storage functions as a "shock absorber" that saves you money in the long run. (A consumer credit line is, for example, a kind of virtual/worse type of storage that is, ironically, not even available unless you already have significant flow.)
  - 3pt14159 4y ago
    Well, it's more that resource storage allows adaptivity rather than being a shock absorber, per se. For example, in the fog of war or the early game we don't know if the enemy is teching, econo-expanding, or rushing. In the mid-game we know an attack is coming, but we're uncertain its unit composition. So in the early game we store some resources while we scout. If we see them teching we can dump everything into military expansion since they'll have neither the army nor the production to counter any attack. Same idea for mid-game: knights -> build pikeman, archers -> build knights. If it were merely about shock absorption we may as well have dumped it all into walls, archers, and castles.