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False comparison - you’ll find plenty of vitriol against white people, christians, traditional values and such in extreme left

batmanturkey 4y ago
But no calls to violence, despite our desires to oust politicians who make hay off of threatening violence.
- sol_invictus 4y ago
  Just an example from, uh, 2 days ago: https://www.chronicle.com/article/professor-fired-for-alleged-threat-to-kill-all-white-people-is-named-interim-provost-of-troubled-college https://www.chronicle.com/article/professor-fired-for-allege...
  - the_why_of_y 4y ago
    This earlier article is far more interesting; most importantly it contains the words the professor actually said; the quote in the headline of the article you link is disputed. (Interestingly, both articles have the same author.) https://www.chronicle.com/article/the-disenchantment-of-a-black-professor https://www.chronicle.com/article/the-disenchantment-of-a-bl... It's a long story about an ambitious academic losing at university politics, to the point of being fired from a tenured position without, allegedly, due process. https://www.thefire.org/fired-for-criticizing-his-administration-and-discussing-racism-indiana-professor-sues/ https://www.thefire.org/fired-for-criticizing-his-administra...
    - sol_invictus 4y ago
      to be frank I'm not here to argue the semantics of a single incident, but rather to argue against the "left can do no harm" crowd
      - pritambaral 4y ago
        > ... I'm not here to argue the semantics of a single incident You cited said single incident as an example. It's validity as an example is open to impeachment.
tibbydudeza 4y ago
Making fun of and mocking a belief in God/Jesus is harmless compared to some the stuff on the extreme rightwing - now who had a noose for "traitors" at their political rallies. You don't see lefties burning crosses, displaying Nazi symbols or parading with signs i.r.o Jews now do you ???. Nope the problem is mainly from one side.
- HKH2 4y ago
  People proudly display the hammer and sickle, because Hitler was an evil man, whereas Mao and Stalin were just extremely unlucky or something. Antifa and BLM don't assault people or destroy property (If people deserve it, it's not assault or something like that. At any rate it just can't be domestic terrorism.) You can't be racist against white people, because they are the only racists by definition! I wish some people had a shred of intellectual honesty.
  - tibbydudeza 4y ago
    Two of our neighbouring countries has an AK47 on their national flag (Zimbabwe/Mozambique). If you knew about their tortured path to emancipation for the black majority and to statehood from colonialism then it makes sense why it is so. The same for my country - things are nuanced - hammer and sickle is hardly as offensive and can be placed in the same category as the Nazi symbol it does not represent the misguided Mao (killing of sparrows led to locusts = failed harvests) and the nutcases that was Stalin/Beira.
    - HKH2 4y ago
      > things are nuanced - hammer and sickle is hardly as offensive and can be placed in the same category as the Nazi symbol Even if you completely buy into the narrative that it was a giant mistake, what is nuanced about the fact that tens of millions of people died needlessly? That fact alone makes any display of the flag reprehensible. If 'misguided' is how you describe Mao, then you do not know Chinese history, or you're talking about a completely different person. At the very least, Mao was directly responsible for the millions of landlords that were killed, along with academics and critics. How on earth can you justify that morally?

batmanturkey 4y ago

But no calls to violence, despite our desires to oust politicians who make hay off of threatening violence.

sol_invictus 4y ago
Just an example from, uh, 2 days ago: https://www.chronicle.com/article/professor-fired-for-alleged-threat-to-kill-all-white-people-is-named-interim-provost-of-troubled-college https://www.chronicle.com/article/professor-fired-for-allege...
- the_why_of_y 4y ago
  This earlier article is far more interesting; most importantly it contains the words the professor actually said; the quote in the headline of the article you link is disputed. (Interestingly, both articles have the same author.) https://www.chronicle.com/article/the-disenchantment-of-a-black-professor https://www.chronicle.com/article/the-disenchantment-of-a-bl... It's a long story about an ambitious academic losing at university politics, to the point of being fired from a tenured position without, allegedly, due process. https://www.thefire.org/fired-for-criticizing-his-administration-and-discussing-racism-indiana-professor-sues/ https://www.thefire.org/fired-for-criticizing-his-administra...
  - sol_invictus 4y ago
    to be frank I'm not here to argue the semantics of a single incident, but rather to argue against the "left can do no harm" crowd
    - pritambaral 4y ago
      > ... I'm not here to argue the semantics of a single incident You cited said single incident as an example. It's validity as an example is open to impeachment.

tibbydudeza 4y ago

Making fun of and mocking a belief in God/Jesus is harmless compared to some the stuff on the extreme rightwing - now who had a noose for "traitors" at their political rallies. You don't see lefties burning crosses, displaying Nazi symbols or parading with signs i.r.o Jews now do you ???. Nope the problem is mainly from one side.

HKH2 4y ago
People proudly display the hammer and sickle, because Hitler was an evil man, whereas Mao and Stalin were just extremely unlucky or something. Antifa and BLM don't assault people or destroy property (If people deserve it, it's not assault or something like that. At any rate it just can't be domestic terrorism.) You can't be racist against white people, because they are the only racists by definition! I wish some people had a shred of intellectual honesty.
- tibbydudeza 4y ago
  Two of our neighbouring countries has an AK47 on their national flag (Zimbabwe/Mozambique). If you knew about their tortured path to emancipation for the black majority and to statehood from colonialism then it makes sense why it is so. The same for my country - things are nuanced - hammer and sickle is hardly as offensive and can be placed in the same category as the Nazi symbol it does not represent the misguided Mao (killing of sparrows led to locusts = failed harvests) and the nutcases that was Stalin/Beira.
  - HKH2 4y ago
    > things are nuanced - hammer and sickle is hardly as offensive and can be placed in the same category as the Nazi symbol Even if you completely buy into the narrative that it was a giant mistake, what is nuanced about the fact that tens of millions of people died needlessly? That fact alone makes any display of the flag reprehensible. If 'misguided' is how you describe Mao, then you do not know Chinese history, or you're talking about a completely different person. At the very least, Mao was directly responsible for the millions of landlords that were killed, along with academics and critics. How on earth can you justify that morally?