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Twitter is so safe in comparison...

by somecommit 4y ago

toofy 4y ago
i think the difference is likely that twitter makes genuine, good-faith attempts at mitigating calls for violence.
- DuskStar 4y ago
  > twitter makes genuine, good-faith attempts at mitigating calls for violence. ...when they're made by people with the wrong opinions or politics. Attackers from the left seem to get the benefit of the doubt.
  - boboralice 4y ago
    I'd agree with this. I'm mostly left of center but occasionally I'll agree with something conservative. I've had horrible threats after those posts and Twitter did nothing.
  - toofy 4y ago
    can you show us example tweets where the left has called for violence where they have remained up?
- dapf 4y ago
  After years of intemperate tweets, Twitter decided to ban Trump on January 6th because of a video when he was talking people to stand down and go back home. I saw the video. Why? That video could have prevented the mob from trespassing the congress building.
  - wumpus 4y ago
    Twitter's recounting of the story disagrees with you: https://blog.twitter.com/en_us/topics/company/2020/suspension https://blog.twitter.com/en_us/topics/company/2020/suspensio... I'll take their word over yours.
    - dapf 4y ago
    - dapf 4y ago
      https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32688746 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32688746
    - upsidesinclude 4y ago
      What word? They don't supply any evidence regarding this discussion in your linked page.
  - toofy 4y ago
    i’m not sure that is an accurate timeline of what actually happened—at least from what i’ve read.
    - dapf 4y ago
      https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32688746 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32688746
  - therouwboat 4y ago
    But he was banned 2 days after the attack? Not to mention that he is still talking about stolen election. https://blog.twitter.com/en_us/topics/company/2020/suspension https://blog.twitter.com/en_us/topics/company/2020/suspensio...
    - dapf 4y ago
      On Jan 6th the tweet/video I'm referring to was removed and Trump couldn't post any more tweets. Maybe that is called freezing the account instead of banning it? IDK.
    - dapf 4y ago
      He had been talking about the "stolen election" for months. It's hard to say that is the reason why they deleted that particular post, especially when it could have potentially defused a dangerous situation.
    - therouwboat 4y ago
      Can't reply to parents new message, but you can read twitter blog link or check trumparchive to see that trump posted on 7th and 8th day.
      - dapf 4y ago
        But you can see on trumparchive that the "Go home" tweet from Jan 6th was deleted, and that Trump wasn't allowed to post until Jan 7th.
      - dapf 4y ago
        https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32688746 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32688746
  - dapf 4y ago
    Here is the tweet. Unfortunately this website (1) doesn't store the video: """ These are the things and events that happen when a sacred landslide election victory is so unceremoniously & viciously stripped away from great patriots who have been badly & unfairly treated for so long. Go home with love & in peace. Remember this day forever! """ As you can see on (1), that particular tweet is deleted, it cannot be further reached. Trump goes on with the "stolen election" line, nothing new there, the only new thing is: "Go home" Wouldn't you like to that message to be transmitted to the Trump supporters at that exact time? Wasn't that precisely the message everyone needed? Who better than Trump to defuse that situation? Why delete that tweet that day? When it was precisely the tweet that was needed? Can someone explain this? -------- (1) https://www.thetrumparchive.com https://www.thetrumparchive.com
    - kthejoker2 4y ago
      Lol what was precisely needed was "I lost the election, I know I lost the election, sorry I lied to all of you, sorry I didn't send this tweet 2 months ago when I lost the election, sorry I didn't send this message 2 weeks ago instead of encouraging you all to come here and "be wild", sorry I didn't say any of this during my speech this morning, sorry I sent that tweet at 2 pm that Mike Pence was a coward, sorry I just sat in the White House as the President of the United Statds of America for 5 hours while this shit went down and did absolutely nothing." What he sent was garbage and only sent because his coup failed.
      - dapf 4y ago

Twitter is so safe in comparison...

toofy 4y ago

i think the difference is likely that twitter makes genuine, good-faith attempts at mitigating calls for violence.

DuskStar 4y ago
> twitter makes genuine, good-faith attempts at mitigating calls for violence. ...when they're made by people with the wrong opinions or politics. Attackers from the left seem to get the benefit of the doubt.
- boboralice 4y ago
  I'd agree with this. I'm mostly left of center but occasionally I'll agree with something conservative. I've had horrible threats after those posts and Twitter did nothing.
- toofy 4y ago
  can you show us example tweets where the left has called for violence where they have remained up?
dapf 4y ago
After years of intemperate tweets, Twitter decided to ban Trump on January 6th because of a video when he was talking people to stand down and go back home. I saw the video. Why? That video could have prevented the mob from trespassing the congress building.
- wumpus 4y ago
  Twitter's recounting of the story disagrees with you: https://blog.twitter.com/en_us/topics/company/2020/suspension https://blog.twitter.com/en_us/topics/company/2020/suspensio... I'll take their word over yours.
  - dapf 4y ago
  - dapf 4y ago
    https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32688746 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32688746
  - upsidesinclude 4y ago
    What word? They don't supply any evidence regarding this discussion in your linked page.
- toofy 4y ago
  i’m not sure that is an accurate timeline of what actually happened—at least from what i’ve read.
  - dapf 4y ago
    https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32688746 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32688746
- therouwboat 4y ago
  But he was banned 2 days after the attack? Not to mention that he is still talking about stolen election. https://blog.twitter.com/en_us/topics/company/2020/suspension https://blog.twitter.com/en_us/topics/company/2020/suspensio...
  - dapf 4y ago
    On Jan 6th the tweet/video I'm referring to was removed and Trump couldn't post any more tweets. Maybe that is called freezing the account instead of banning it? IDK.
  - dapf 4y ago
    He had been talking about the "stolen election" for months. It's hard to say that is the reason why they deleted that particular post, especially when it could have potentially defused a dangerous situation.
  - therouwboat 4y ago
    Can't reply to parents new message, but you can read twitter blog link or check trumparchive to see that trump posted on 7th and 8th day.
    - dapf 4y ago
      But you can see on trumparchive that the "Go home" tweet from Jan 6th was deleted, and that Trump wasn't allowed to post until Jan 7th.
    - dapf 4y ago
      https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32688746 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32688746
- dapf 4y ago
  Here is the tweet. Unfortunately this website (1) doesn't store the video: """ These are the things and events that happen when a sacred landslide election victory is so unceremoniously & viciously stripped away from great patriots who have been badly & unfairly treated for so long. Go home with love & in peace. Remember this day forever! """ As you can see on (1), that particular tweet is deleted, it cannot be further reached. Trump goes on with the "stolen election" line, nothing new there, the only new thing is: "Go home" Wouldn't you like to that message to be transmitted to the Trump supporters at that exact time? Wasn't that precisely the message everyone needed? Who better than Trump to defuse that situation? Why delete that tweet that day? When it was precisely the tweet that was needed? Can someone explain this? -------- (1) https://www.thetrumparchive.com https://www.thetrumparchive.com
  - kthejoker2 4y ago
    Lol what was precisely needed was "I lost the election, I know I lost the election, sorry I lied to all of you, sorry I didn't send this tweet 2 months ago when I lost the election, sorry I didn't send this message 2 weeks ago instead of encouraging you all to come here and "be wild", sorry I didn't say any of this during my speech this morning, sorry I sent that tweet at 2 pm that Mike Pence was a coward, sorry I just sat in the White House as the President of the United Statds of America for 5 hours while this shit went down and did absolutely nothing." What he sent was garbage and only sent because his coup failed.
    - dapf 4y ago