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Pretty much every generation makes the same mistake you're making right now by writing off whatever the younger generation is focusing their time on. You can fi

Pretty much every generation makes the same mistake you're making right now by writing off whatever the younger generation is focusing their time on. You can find quotes from 1000 years ago with the same exact sentiment as your comment. Every single time they were wrong.

blfr 4y ago
Were they wrong? Most civilizations enjoyed a period of growth and innovation followed buy a longer period of stagnation and decay. Historically, most complaints about the next generation were right.
thefz 4y ago
I really think that a video of a girl dancing, her clothes changing every time she claps her hands, made for a platform that prizes sucking out teens's attention for the chance of showing them an ad and collecting data on them, will be written off in a few years. Besides, everything is safe until it is not and research is increasingly pointing towards the toxicity of social media on the young mind. Even doctors smoke a certain brand, remember?
- maccard 4y ago
  Plenty of video games, movies, TV shows, graphic novels, books, plays, songs, have little to no staying power, entertainment value or cultural relevance of any kind. Does the fact that ET the video game was produced, or Bram Stoker apparently wrote a book so bad were still dunking on it 100 years later invalidate either of their mediums? Does the fact that twerking exists and is labelled invalidate the cultural impaxt of dancing?
mattigames 4y ago
Yeah, scrolling photos of big butts, breasts and yachts plus a lot of ads it's really pushing forward society as a whole, is hard to believe the staggering similarity of when books became mainstream and old people worried the young would become dumber given they wouldn't have to memorize.
- cromka 4y ago
  How about the TV and zapping?
  - mattigames 4y ago
    It depends on what they are watching, are they watching "mythbusters" or "the Kardashians"? The problem start when the giant majority uses the medium to consume garbage, the drop in intelligence in the US and it's politicians is likely directly related to that.
- maccard 4y ago
  There's plenty of nonsense books available too. People made the same argument about video games when I was a child. Over the last 100 years we've been worried about TV shows, movies, video games, and rock music being a negative influence. Just because you think something is dumb doesn't invalidate it for everyone else.
  - mattigames 4y ago
    The popularity ratio of garbage books vs non-garbage is nowhere even close to the equivalent ratio on social media, where instantaneous feedback loops of dopamine shots are pushing the balance in favor of the worst kind of content, I admit TV already did some of that but social media platforms are on a whole new level. And there has been a drop in the average IQ of the world in recent decades, and is directly related to TV and the other things you mentioned, so it's clear that it does have consequences and some of it is indeed a negative influence, source: https://www.swnewsmedia.com/article_8317aad9-876e-5c1e-804a-55cb6f297361.html https://www.swnewsmedia.com/article_8317aad9-876e-5c1e-804a-...
    - maccard 4y ago
      > The popularity ratio of garbage books vs non-garbage is nowhere even close to the equivalent ratio on social media, The ratio of absolute nonsense and garbage books to decent literature is probably 99:1, if not higher. It's got to be the same for TV shows, and movies. > where instantaneous feedback loops of dopamine shots are pushing the balance in favor of the worst kind of content, I admit TV already did some of that but social media platforms are on a whole new level. We've been having this argument for decades - https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/children-80s-never-fear-video-games-did-not-ruin-your-life-180963452/ https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/children-80s-never-fe... this is a great example of it. People were worried about that playing video games will turn you violent, or that novels will make it difficult to differentiate between reality and fantasy. > And there has been a drop in the average IQ of the world in recent decades, and is directly related to TV and the other things you mentioned, so it's clear that it does have consequences and some of it is indeed a negative influence, source: https://www.swnewsmedia.com/article_8317aad9-876e-5c1e-804a- https://www.swnewsmedia.com/article_8317aad9-876e-5c1e-804a-... Link didn't work for me (thanks GDPR), so archive link here: https://archive.ph/wnaFn https://archive.ph/wnaFn - That' not a source, that's a column in a local newspaper with no citations and no research. The article (which is a two paragraph soapbox about people on the internet being stupid) doesn't mention TV, social media, or what the cause for his claim that IQ is dropping is.
worthless-trash 4y ago
Every single time they were wrong. [Evidence required]

blfr 4y ago

Were they wrong? Most civilizations enjoyed a period of growth and innovation followed buy a longer period of stagnation and decay. Historically, most complaints about the next generation were right.

thefz 4y ago

I really think that a video of a girl dancing, her clothes changing every time she claps her hands, made for a platform that prizes sucking out teens's attention for the chance of showing them an ad and collecting data on them, will be written off in a few years. Besides, everything is safe until it is not and research is increasingly pointing towards the toxicity of social media on the young mind. Even doctors smoke a certain brand, remember?

maccard 4y ago
Plenty of video games, movies, TV shows, graphic novels, books, plays, songs, have little to no staying power, entertainment value or cultural relevance of any kind. Does the fact that ET the video game was produced, or Bram Stoker apparently wrote a book so bad were still dunking on it 100 years later invalidate either of their mediums? Does the fact that twerking exists and is labelled invalidate the cultural impaxt of dancing?

mattigames 4y ago

Yeah, scrolling photos of big butts, breasts and yachts plus a lot of ads it's really pushing forward society as a whole, is hard to believe the staggering similarity of when books became mainstream and old people worried the young would become dumber given they wouldn't have to memorize.

cromka 4y ago
How about the TV and zapping?
- mattigames 4y ago
  It depends on what they are watching, are they watching "mythbusters" or "the Kardashians"? The problem start when the giant majority uses the medium to consume garbage, the drop in intelligence in the US and it's politicians is likely directly related to that.
maccard 4y ago
There's plenty of nonsense books available too. People made the same argument about video games when I was a child. Over the last 100 years we've been worried about TV shows, movies, video games, and rock music being a negative influence. Just because you think something is dumb doesn't invalidate it for everyone else.
- mattigames 4y ago
  The popularity ratio of garbage books vs non-garbage is nowhere even close to the equivalent ratio on social media, where instantaneous feedback loops of dopamine shots are pushing the balance in favor of the worst kind of content, I admit TV already did some of that but social media platforms are on a whole new level. And there has been a drop in the average IQ of the world in recent decades, and is directly related to TV and the other things you mentioned, so it's clear that it does have consequences and some of it is indeed a negative influence, source: https://www.swnewsmedia.com/article_8317aad9-876e-5c1e-804a-55cb6f297361.html https://www.swnewsmedia.com/article_8317aad9-876e-5c1e-804a-...
  - maccard 4y ago
    > The popularity ratio of garbage books vs non-garbage is nowhere even close to the equivalent ratio on social media, The ratio of absolute nonsense and garbage books to decent literature is probably 99:1, if not higher. It's got to be the same for TV shows, and movies. > where instantaneous feedback loops of dopamine shots are pushing the balance in favor of the worst kind of content, I admit TV already did some of that but social media platforms are on a whole new level. We've been having this argument for decades - https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/children-80s-never-fear-video-games-did-not-ruin-your-life-180963452/ https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/children-80s-never-fe... this is a great example of it. People were worried about that playing video games will turn you violent, or that novels will make it difficult to differentiate between reality and fantasy. > And there has been a drop in the average IQ of the world in recent decades, and is directly related to TV and the other things you mentioned, so it's clear that it does have consequences and some of it is indeed a negative influence, source: https://www.swnewsmedia.com/article_8317aad9-876e-5c1e-804a- https://www.swnewsmedia.com/article_8317aad9-876e-5c1e-804a-... Link didn't work for me (thanks GDPR), so archive link here: https://archive.ph/wnaFn https://archive.ph/wnaFn - That' not a source, that's a column in a local newspaper with no citations and no research. The article (which is a two paragraph soapbox about people on the internet being stupid) doesn't mention TV, social media, or what the cause for his claim that IQ is dropping is.

worthless-trash 4y ago

Every single time they were wrong. [Evidence required]