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There's more relevant information here on their community page: https://community.frame.work/t/now-available-for-pre-order-in-australia/22089 https://community.

There's more relevant information here on their community page: https://community.frame.work/t/now-available-for-pre-order-in-australia/22089 https://community.frame.work/t/now-available-for-pre-order-i... Unfortunately it's not clear if their pricing is in USD, CAD, or AUD. Quite a difference between a laptop being priced at USD$1,639.00 (~=$2,414.25) or AUD$1,639.00

chadash 4y ago
If you go to their site and select a region, it looks like prices are the prices for that region in the local currency. It’s a little bit more expensive to buy a laptop in Australia (starting price on DIY 12th gen is ~$870 USD vs ~$820 in the US, but that’s seems reasonable given tremendous currency fluctuations lately, plus added cost of servicing a smaller market.
- caf 4y ago
  Australian prices have to include 10% GST (sales tax), so the Australian price is probably actually a little cheaper.
chrismorgan 4y ago
If they're actively advertising to Australians, consumer law dictates that the prices must be AUD inclusive of any applicable taxes (which normally just means GST), unless clearly stated otherwise and a permitted exception. Have you some reason to suspect they're doing it wrong?
- paranoidrobot 4y ago
  > consumer law dictates I've come across plenty of overseas online stores that "advertise" to Australians that don't follow ACL, apply GST, etc. I'm also not entirely certain that ACL dictates that they must advertise it in AUD. A quick browse of the ACL Sales Practices PDF[1] only mentions that currency here: A price is not a ‘displayed price’ when it is: [...] not in Australian currency, or unlikely to be interpreted as Australian currency. " [1] > Have you some reason to suspect they're doing it wrong? Decades of buying stuff online from other suppliers who advertise as shipping to Australia, just show stuff with a $ symbol and mean USD. It's not a Framework-specific thing, it's just every online store that isn't clearly Australian I look for that currency code beside the symbol. After it was pointed out (a few times now) that there's an AUD symbol in the top of the page, then it's now clear in my mind. [1] https://consumer.gov.au/sites/consumer/files/2016/05/0553FT_ACL-guides_SalesPractices_web.pdf https://consumer.gov.au/sites/consumer/files/2016/05/0553FT_...
lysp 4y ago
I went part through the checkout process. Top right corner said AUD. Plus the summary said GST included.
nrp 4y ago
The prices are in AUD for AU, USD for US, and CAD for CA. In the top left corner of the Framework website, we show the locale and currency you are browsing the site on (in the side nav and at the bottom of the page on mobile).
- paranoidrobot 4y ago
  Ah, I missed that, thanks. I'm used to US-based companies just using $ to mean USD, and hence a little cautious. As a suggestion, It might be worthwhile actually putting the currency code beside the amount.

chadash 4y ago

If you go to their site and select a region, it looks like prices are the prices for that region in the local currency. It’s a little bit more expensive to buy a laptop in Australia (starting price on DIY 12th gen is ~$870 USD vs ~$820 in the US, but that’s seems reasonable given tremendous currency fluctuations lately, plus added cost of servicing a smaller market.

caf 4y ago
Australian prices have to include 10% GST (sales tax), so the Australian price is probably actually a little cheaper.

chrismorgan 4y ago

If they're actively advertising to Australians, consumer law dictates that the prices must be AUD inclusive of any applicable taxes (which normally just means GST), unless clearly stated otherwise and a permitted exception. Have you some reason to suspect they're doing it wrong?

paranoidrobot 4y ago
> consumer law dictates I've come across plenty of overseas online stores that "advertise" to Australians that don't follow ACL, apply GST, etc. I'm also not entirely certain that ACL dictates that they must advertise it in AUD. A quick browse of the ACL Sales Practices PDF[1] only mentions that currency here: A price is not a ‘displayed price’ when it is: [...] not in Australian currency, or unlikely to be interpreted as Australian currency. " [1] > Have you some reason to suspect they're doing it wrong? Decades of buying stuff online from other suppliers who advertise as shipping to Australia, just show stuff with a $ symbol and mean USD. It's not a Framework-specific thing, it's just every online store that isn't clearly Australian I look for that currency code beside the symbol. After it was pointed out (a few times now) that there's an AUD symbol in the top of the page, then it's now clear in my mind. [1] https://consumer.gov.au/sites/consumer/files/2016/05/0553FT_ACL-guides_SalesPractices_web.pdf https://consumer.gov.au/sites/consumer/files/2016/05/0553FT_...

lysp 4y ago

I went part through the checkout process. Top right corner said AUD. Plus the summary said GST included.

nrp 4y ago

The prices are in AUD for AU, USD for US, and CAD for CA. In the top left corner of the Framework website, we show the locale and currency you are browsing the site on (in the side nav and at the bottom of the page on mobile).

paranoidrobot 4y ago
Ah, I missed that, thanks. I'm used to US-based companies just using $ to mean USD, and hence a little cautious. As a suggestion, It might be worthwhile actually putting the currency code beside the amount.