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I totally understand your pain in seeing your hometown turning into a hellish zone but I can't pass on calling the irony in your story since these same Cali exi

I totally understand your pain in seeing your hometown turning into a hellish zone but I can't pass on calling the irony in your story since these same Cali exiles are one of the principal factors in pricing ordinary locals in Portugal out of their neighborhoods. SOURCE Welcome to Portugal, the new expat haven. Californians, please go home https://www.latimes.com/world-nation/story/2022-05-12/california-expats-portugal-relocation-lisbon https://www.latimes.com/world-nation/story/2022-05-12/califo...

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samatman 4y ago
I'd love to see so much as a tiny shred of evidence of this, it doesn't pass the smell test. Austin? Ok, sure. How many Californians are expatriating to Lisbon? Is it that many? Ok, let's do Londoners next. A lot more right? Principal factors, you say. Let's see it.
- FerociousTimes 4y ago
  By searching "Californians in Portugal", just one of many on the top search results page: Welcome to Portugal, the new expat haven. Californians, please go home https://www.latimes.com/world-nation/story/2022-05-12/california-expats-portugal-relocation-lisbon https://www.latimes.com/world-nation/story/2022-05-12/califo...
  - AYBABTME 4y ago
    If you go fishing for what you believe, you'll surely find it. A quick google search returning some stuff doesn't quantify this as being an actual, significant phenomenon.
  - raverbashing 4y ago
    (Turning my sarcasm down here a bit), a west coast newspaper isn't the best source about the foreign resident situation in Portugal and where they do come from. Google translate and all that Instead let me propose an alternate origin of this story: "Hey have you heard that Jamie just moved to Portugal? Maybe we can write a story about that" > “I’d say 95% of my clients are now Americans,” said André Fernandes, a 38-year-old Porto-based real estate broker who, upon seeing the surge in interest in his homeland, moved back from New Jersey three years ago and switched from installing fire sprinklers to selling housing Only shows how most journalists will go far for a story. Oh and by far I mean the East coast.
    - geocar 4y ago
      > a west coast newspaper isn't the best source about the foreign resident situation in Portugal and where they do come from. "a west coast newspaper" should have been enough for you and anyone else looking for "a shred of evidence" that maybe there's something to this, because I would have to assume you being on HN, that you have some idea how to use a search engine. But sure, let me ddg that for you: https://www.foxnews.com/world/portuguese-influx-californians-import-problems https://www.foxnews.com/world/portuguese-influx-californians... https://www.sandoff.com/portugal-new-home-for-american-expats/ https://www.sandoff.com/portugal-new-home-for-american-expat... https://www.theportugalnews.com/news/2022-05-08/americans-continue-to-invest-in-portugal/66891 https://www.theportugalnews.com/news/2022-05-08/americans-co... > Instead let me propose an alternate origin of this story... Actually, please don't: If you can't operate a search engine, and you're unwilling to leave the armchair you speculate from to go find out from people living in Portugal (like me), how about you keep your uneducated and uninformed opinions to yourself? Thanks.
      - raverbashing 4y ago
        Don't assume I don't know anyone living in Portugal, quite the contrary. Americans are not on the top 10 list of most present nationalities https://eco.sapo.pt/2022/06/23/quase-700-mil-estrangeiros-vivem-em-portugal-e-30-sao-brasileiros/ https://eco.sapo.pt/2022/06/23/quase-700-mil-estrangeiros-vi... Apresente fontes portuguesas sobre o assunto e a discussão será mais interessante

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samatman 4y ago

I'd love to see so much as a tiny shred of evidence of this, it doesn't pass the smell test. Austin? Ok, sure. How many Californians are expatriating to Lisbon? Is it that many? Ok, let's do Londoners next. A lot more right? Principal factors, you say. Let's see it.

FerociousTimes 4y ago
By searching "Californians in Portugal", just one of many on the top search results page: Welcome to Portugal, the new expat haven. Californians, please go home https://www.latimes.com/world-nation/story/2022-05-12/california-expats-portugal-relocation-lisbon https://www.latimes.com/world-nation/story/2022-05-12/califo...
- AYBABTME 4y ago
  If you go fishing for what you believe, you'll surely find it. A quick google search returning some stuff doesn't quantify this as being an actual, significant phenomenon.
- raverbashing 4y ago
  (Turning my sarcasm down here a bit), a west coast newspaper isn't the best source about the foreign resident situation in Portugal and where they do come from. Google translate and all that Instead let me propose an alternate origin of this story: "Hey have you heard that Jamie just moved to Portugal? Maybe we can write a story about that" > “I’d say 95% of my clients are now Americans,” said André Fernandes, a 38-year-old Porto-based real estate broker who, upon seeing the surge in interest in his homeland, moved back from New Jersey three years ago and switched from installing fire sprinklers to selling housing Only shows how most journalists will go far for a story. Oh and by far I mean the East coast.
  - geocar 4y ago
    > a west coast newspaper isn't the best source about the foreign resident situation in Portugal and where they do come from. "a west coast newspaper" should have been enough for you and anyone else looking for "a shred of evidence" that maybe there's something to this, because I would have to assume you being on HN, that you have some idea how to use a search engine. But sure, let me ddg that for you: https://www.foxnews.com/world/portuguese-influx-californians-import-problems https://www.foxnews.com/world/portuguese-influx-californians... https://www.sandoff.com/portugal-new-home-for-american-expats/ https://www.sandoff.com/portugal-new-home-for-american-expat... https://www.theportugalnews.com/news/2022-05-08/americans-continue-to-invest-in-portugal/66891 https://www.theportugalnews.com/news/2022-05-08/americans-co... > Instead let me propose an alternate origin of this story... Actually, please don't: If you can't operate a search engine, and you're unwilling to leave the armchair you speculate from to go find out from people living in Portugal (like me), how about you keep your uneducated and uninformed opinions to yourself? Thanks.
    - raverbashing 4y ago
      Don't assume I don't know anyone living in Portugal, quite the contrary. Americans are not on the top 10 list of most present nationalities https://eco.sapo.pt/2022/06/23/quase-700-mil-estrangeiros-vivem-em-portugal-e-30-sao-brasileiros/ https://eco.sapo.pt/2022/06/23/quase-700-mil-estrangeiros-vi... Apresente fontes portuguesas sobre o assunto e a discussão será mais interessante