The words "Meh, if you can't do this, I'm probably fine with a used one. CarMax doesn't haggle. Can you make a quote, or am I leaving" usually get them to move.

The words "Meh, if you can't do this, I'm probably fine with a used one. CarMax doesn't haggle. Can you make a quote, or am I leaving" usually get them to move. Right now, some might balk. But you know what? That salesperson cares about their quota, and if your purchases pushes them over today's goal number, they twitch. Because the inevitable next buyer tomorrow isn't going to get them over the quota they need to meet today. And if your dealership really plays hardball? Move on to the next one. Or buy used from a place that doesn't haggle. The way to lose this is if you want a specific year/make/model - they'll get you. If your entire attitude is "anything within that set of parameters", it's much harder for them.