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Nope. America's a strong net exporter of food.

tayo42 4y ago
that's not really how this works. just because a country export doesn't mean the country doesn't rely on imports see stuff like this https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/13/dining/fruit-vegetables-imports.html https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/13/dining/fruit-vegetables-i...
- spywaregorilla 4y ago
  https://www.wlj.net/top_headlines/americans-consume-mostly-u-s--made-food-produce/article_a76f95f0-5857-11e8-8922-47f84163101f.html https://www.wlj.net/top_headlines/americans-consume-mostly-u... Or if you want the latest raw data from the USDA Economic Research Service, you can grab it here: https://www.ers.usda.gov/topics/international-markets-u-s-trade/u-s-agricultural-trade/u-s-agricultural-trade-at-a-glance/ https://www.ers.usda.gov/topics/international-markets-u-s-tr... It's true, many fresh produce foods are imported, but the majority (~80%) of food consumed in the US is domestically produced / grown.
  - tayo42 4y ago
    I think we're talking about different things. That 80% includes things like candy, beer, cereal. America isn't going to collapse if that disappeared.
    - spywaregorilla 4y ago
      I'm not sure what that is supposed to mean. 80% reduction in food would be catastrophic and its puzzling to imagine otherwise. Not to mention the fact that a lot of that same food supply is exported to food insecure countries. It disappearing isn't on the table though. Candy is not a large part of the American diet so it's not really that meaningful to call out its inclusion. American agriculture is going to be more important than ever in light of the coming (present?) gas crisis. I'm not well informed enough to make a comment on Mexico but I would wager they're likely in a pretty good spot too.
      - tayo42 4y ago
        The post I responded to was about red states being petty and stop selling food to blue states. That's like real food like produce. Not total food and beverage. But sure looking at something expensive like candy About 37billion in sales https://www.foodbeverageinsider.com/market-trends-analysis/us-chocolate-candy-sales-rise-again https://www.foodbeverageinsider.com/market-trends-analysis/u... Compared to 70ish billion of produce https://theproducenews.com/headlines/produce-department-sales-top-71-billion-see-continued-growth https://theproducenews.com/headlines/produce-department-sale... That seems significant for all good and beverage sales. Nevermind alcohol, which I'm pretty sure was included in that first 80% number. Look at a supermarket, how much of that is real food. I think my local one has 3-4 aisles of snacks and candy
        spywaregorilla 4y ago
        I can't tell what your point is then? The petty red state question was dumb, sure. 80% of american food and beverage is significant. And more significant than 20% of it, obviously. Candy is a pretty small portion of the food people eat even if there's a lot of shelf space on the supermarkets. Most food that people eat are grains and meat, which is largely sourced internally. The imported stuff is mostly fresh produce which is nice but also not really natural or essential to have year round.

that's not really how this works. just because a country export doesn't mean the country doesn't rely on imports see stuff like this https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/13/dining/fruit-vegetables-imports.html https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/13/dining/fruit-vegetables-i...

spywaregorilla 4y ago
https://www.wlj.net/top_headlines/americans-consume-mostly-u-s--made-food-produce/article_a76f95f0-5857-11e8-8922-47f84163101f.html https://www.wlj.net/top_headlines/americans-consume-mostly-u... Or if you want the latest raw data from the USDA Economic Research Service, you can grab it here: https://www.ers.usda.gov/topics/international-markets-u-s-trade/u-s-agricultural-trade/u-s-agricultural-trade-at-a-glance/ https://www.ers.usda.gov/topics/international-markets-u-s-tr... It's true, many fresh produce foods are imported, but the majority (~80%) of food consumed in the US is domestically produced / grown.
- tayo42 4y ago
  I think we're talking about different things. That 80% includes things like candy, beer, cereal. America isn't going to collapse if that disappeared.
  - spywaregorilla 4y ago
    I'm not sure what that is supposed to mean. 80% reduction in food would be catastrophic and its puzzling to imagine otherwise. Not to mention the fact that a lot of that same food supply is exported to food insecure countries. It disappearing isn't on the table though. Candy is not a large part of the American diet so it's not really that meaningful to call out its inclusion. American agriculture is going to be more important than ever in light of the coming (present?) gas crisis. I'm not well informed enough to make a comment on Mexico but I would wager they're likely in a pretty good spot too.
    - tayo42 4y ago
      The post I responded to was about red states being petty and stop selling food to blue states. That's like real food like produce. Not total food and beverage. But sure looking at something expensive like candy About 37billion in sales https://www.foodbeverageinsider.com/market-trends-analysis/us-chocolate-candy-sales-rise-again https://www.foodbeverageinsider.com/market-trends-analysis/u... Compared to 70ish billion of produce https://theproducenews.com/headlines/produce-department-sales-top-71-billion-see-continued-growth https://theproducenews.com/headlines/produce-department-sale... That seems significant for all good and beverage sales. Nevermind alcohol, which I'm pretty sure was included in that first 80% number. Look at a supermarket, how much of that is real food. I think my local one has 3-4 aisles of snacks and candy
      - spywaregorilla 4y ago
        I can't tell what your point is then? The petty red state question was dumb, sure. 80% of american food and beverage is significant. And more significant than 20% of it, obviously. Candy is a pretty small portion of the food people eat even if there's a lot of shelf space on the supermarkets. Most food that people eat are grains and meat, which is largely sourced internally. The imported stuff is mostly fresh produce which is nice but also not really natural or essential to have year round.