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It's entirely on brand. They are playing into parent's fear of being too afraid. It's fear inception. Fuck off, I'm keeping my kids in the house until at least

It's entirely on brand. They are playing into parent's fear of being too afraid. It's fear inception. Fuck off, I'm keeping my kids in the house until at least 10yo and that white van that has been seen prowling around is a serious threat and they should know about it. Strangers are potentially dangerous, high things are dangerous. The world will mess you up in a moment if you don't use your whole being, your gut and your head, to move intelligently within it. Being carefree and ignorant is not an optimal strategy, nor is it the path to a life lived in truth. And ultimately a life lived beautifully. Vacuous joy is not the goal here.

tasuki 4y ago
> that white van that has been seen prowling around is a serious threat and they should know about it Care to explain?
- rhino369 4y ago
  Might overcharge for their plumbing services.
- plutonorm 4y ago
  There was literally an attempted kidnapping down the road from me, when a man in a white van tried to give a child sweets. What is not to understand?
  - tasuki 4y ago
    Where I'm from (Eastern Europe), this is not generally a thing. Is it easier to kidnap a child using a white van? Or do the would-be kidnappers always use white vans so as to be more easily spotted? Is the plan to kidnap the child and... raise them as a member of one's own family? Try to blackmail the parents? Something worse? This whole situation is hard for me to understand, your confidence about white vans in particular.
    - plutonorm 4y ago
      because it's very easy to get someone into a white van and close the doors without much fuss. If you wanted to kidnap someone what would you choose? You've never heard of rape and murder for sexual gratification? I find your innocence unlikely, it makes me think you are intentionally not understanding.
saiya-jin 4y ago
That's one fucked up way to see the world, and... to fuck up your kids for good. I hope they are stronger than you and overcome whatever you instill(ed) in them, many do. Some would even call social services in such a case (I wouldn't but that's mostly due to general shit quality of those). Overall, the whole article is so surreal - is this actual reality in US? Where I live, and lived, which means some parts of Europe, kids are much more self-sufficient, its expected from them and they are happy to deliver. I recall the joy and pride I felt when I begged my parents into letting me go alone for the first time on public transport from aunt home, and they let me and it was at the end simple ride with bunch of stops. The idea anybody can protect their kids 100% is completely ridiculous, just let it go. Teach them to be smart when interacting with strangers, not fearful. Are you also afraid by default when stranger approaches you ie with a question? (that would explain a lot). Whatever inner problem you have, it can be worked on by specialists, just don't close yourself since you drag your closest family down that hole and young ones have no good defenses for messed up parents.
- lolinder 4y ago
  > Overall, the whole article is so surreal - is this actual reality in US? As with almost everything, it depends on where you are in the US, but there has been a general trend towards overprotection of kids. The GP is an extreme example, but I've definitely met parents with that same attitude.
- hilbert42 4y ago
  "The idea anybody can protect their kids 100% is completely ridiculous, just let it go." You're right. I think one significant difference between my parents generation and those of us who came later, is that they lived through the depression and WWII. They knew this fact if not consciously then subconsciously for the very reason that from an early age they were often confronted with things and circumstances well outside their control. War for instance, being conscripted into the military was just a fact of life and that one had to accept it, everyone was well aware that it was essentially futile to do otherwise. To a large extent their attitude of resignation and acceptance of fate passed onto way they treated us, their children. Like other aspects of their lives, they accepted the fact that they couldn't control everything we did, even if we were just kids. That was a great blessing for my generation, the babyboomers. We had almost none of the major restrictions that governed our parents' lives, and it's largely the reason for why we had so much freedom and autonomy as kids. Nevertheless, we became a bratish generation, we did what we wanted and we got what we wanted. Compared with our parents we were undisciplined and from there we eventually developed into the 'control freak' generation. As babyboomers, we were now getting just about everything denied to our parents, but when something was denied to us we became overly pushy and overbearing until we'd gotten what we wanted. After all, for us, it was a logical extension of what was already happening. Same with the kids, babyboomers felt the need to control their lives and had no compunction or regret in doing so. Later, that fact was not lost on more recent generations and they've since honed the practice into a fine art. Clearly, this is a grossly simplified explanation of what is a long and rich set of facts but you'll get the gist. Nevertheless, we babyboomers should not blame our parents for seemingly the sins they endowed us with, for after the bad times and wars they'd experienced they wanted us kids to have a better life and they only did what they thought best for us. Bless them.
LorenPechtel 4y ago
You teach kids not to go with strangers, you don't teach them to fear the world.

tasuki 4y ago

> that white van that has been seen prowling around is a serious threat and they should know about it Care to explain?

rhino369 4y ago
Might overcharge for their plumbing services.
plutonorm 4y ago
There was literally an attempted kidnapping down the road from me, when a man in a white van tried to give a child sweets. What is not to understand?
- tasuki 4y ago
  Where I'm from (Eastern Europe), this is not generally a thing. Is it easier to kidnap a child using a white van? Or do the would-be kidnappers always use white vans so as to be more easily spotted? Is the plan to kidnap the child and... raise them as a member of one's own family? Try to blackmail the parents? Something worse? This whole situation is hard for me to understand, your confidence about white vans in particular.
  - plutonorm 4y ago
    because it's very easy to get someone into a white van and close the doors without much fuss. If you wanted to kidnap someone what would you choose? You've never heard of rape and murder for sexual gratification? I find your innocence unlikely, it makes me think you are intentionally not understanding.

saiya-jin 4y ago

That's one fucked up way to see the world, and... to fuck up your kids for good. I hope they are stronger than you and overcome whatever you instill(ed) in them, many do. Some would even call social services in such a case (I wouldn't but that's mostly due to general shit quality of those). Overall, the whole article is so surreal - is this actual reality in US? Where I live, and lived, which means some parts of Europe, kids are much more self-sufficient, its expected from them and they are happy to deliver. I recall the joy and pride I felt when I begged my parents into letting me go alone for the first time on public transport from aunt home, and they let me and it was at the end simple ride with bunch of stops. The idea anybody can protect their kids 100% is completely ridiculous, just let it go. Teach them to be smart when interacting with strangers, not fearful. Are you also afraid by default when stranger approaches you ie with a question? (that would explain a lot). Whatever inner problem you have, it can be worked on by specialists, just don't close yourself since you drag your closest family down that hole and young ones have no good defenses for messed up parents.

lolinder 4y ago
> Overall, the whole article is so surreal - is this actual reality in US? As with almost everything, it depends on where you are in the US, but there has been a general trend towards overprotection of kids. The GP is an extreme example, but I've definitely met parents with that same attitude.
hilbert42 4y ago
"The idea anybody can protect their kids 100% is completely ridiculous, just let it go." You're right. I think one significant difference between my parents generation and those of us who came later, is that they lived through the depression and WWII. They knew this fact if not consciously then subconsciously for the very reason that from an early age they were often confronted with things and circumstances well outside their control. War for instance, being conscripted into the military was just a fact of life and that one had to accept it, everyone was well aware that it was essentially futile to do otherwise. To a large extent their attitude of resignation and acceptance of fate passed onto way they treated us, their children. Like other aspects of their lives, they accepted the fact that they couldn't control everything we did, even if we were just kids. That was a great blessing for my generation, the babyboomers. We had almost none of the major restrictions that governed our parents' lives, and it's largely the reason for why we had so much freedom and autonomy as kids. Nevertheless, we became a bratish generation, we did what we wanted and we got what we wanted. Compared with our parents we were undisciplined and from there we eventually developed into the 'control freak' generation. As babyboomers, we were now getting just about everything denied to our parents, but when something was denied to us we became overly pushy and overbearing until we'd gotten what we wanted. After all, for us, it was a logical extension of what was already happening. Same with the kids, babyboomers felt the need to control their lives and had no compunction or regret in doing so. Later, that fact was not lost on more recent generations and they've since honed the practice into a fine art. Clearly, this is a grossly simplified explanation of what is a long and rich set of facts but you'll get the gist. Nevertheless, we babyboomers should not blame our parents for seemingly the sins they endowed us with, for after the bad times and wars they'd experienced they wanted us kids to have a better life and they only did what they thought best for us. Bless them.

LorenPechtel 4y ago

You teach kids not to go with strangers, you don't teach them to fear the world.