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I'm talking about if the US already was at war with them and hitting them hard. I don't see what would restrain them at that point.

teddyh 4y ago
Military actions have purposes, which do not include acting out your nightmare scenarios and being as horrible as possible. There’s a reason regular armies don’t do that kind of thing; it does not aid their purpose. And I don’t see how such an action could ever aid the cartels. War is not a game where each side gradually loses their “restraint”. Instead, each side carefully considers each possible action and its consequences, and then does whatever action seems to lead to the best end result.
- erdos4d 4y ago
  Hold on amigo, have you seen how cartels operate? They actually do just do as horrible of a thing as possible, just because the top people want to be monsters and show their enemies they can slaughter them. They hang their gutted enemies off bridges, or decimate a whole neighborhood, or you name it. I think you assume they would play by your rules in a war. They might just decide to erase Houston so they can watch those people die in a gas cloud.
  - teddyh 4y ago
    > They actually do just do as horrible of a thing as possible Yes, the do that when their enemies are individual people, since that tactic works on those. I doubt the same tactics would work on armies or nation states. > so they can watch those people die in a gas cloud. You still seem to think that the cartels do things merely for their own cruel amusement. I, on the other hand, believe that cruel amusement is luxury which they allow themselves only as long as it works.
    - erdos4d 4y ago
      > You still seem to think that the cartels do things merely for their own cruel amusement. I, on the other hand, believe that cruel amusement is luxury which they allow themselves only as long as it works. I agree with you on this. I also think it would absolutely work, just like it works in Mexico. I also think it would be the first choice of people accustomed to it working.
      - teddyh 4y ago
        > I also think it would absolutely work, just like it works in Mexico. I feel that the U.S. Army would not respond favorably to terrorism. > I also think it would be the first choice of people accustomed to it working. Well, that may be true; they might be stupid enough to do that. I couldn’t really say; I’m just a random person on the internet without any special knowledge of their psychology.

teddyh 4y ago

Military actions have purposes, which do not include acting out your nightmare scenarios and being as horrible as possible. There’s a reason regular armies don’t do that kind of thing; it does not aid their purpose. And I don’t see how such an action could ever aid the cartels. War is not a game where each side gradually loses their “restraint”. Instead, each side carefully considers each possible action and its consequences, and then does whatever action seems to lead to the best end result.

erdos4d 4y ago
Hold on amigo, have you seen how cartels operate? They actually do just do as horrible of a thing as possible, just because the top people want to be monsters and show their enemies they can slaughter them. They hang their gutted enemies off bridges, or decimate a whole neighborhood, or you name it. I think you assume they would play by your rules in a war. They might just decide to erase Houston so they can watch those people die in a gas cloud.
- teddyh 4y ago
  > They actually do just do as horrible of a thing as possible Yes, the do that when their enemies are individual people, since that tactic works on those. I doubt the same tactics would work on armies or nation states. > so they can watch those people die in a gas cloud. You still seem to think that the cartels do things merely for their own cruel amusement. I, on the other hand, believe that cruel amusement is luxury which they allow themselves only as long as it works.
  - erdos4d 4y ago
    > You still seem to think that the cartels do things merely for their own cruel amusement. I, on the other hand, believe that cruel amusement is luxury which they allow themselves only as long as it works. I agree with you on this. I also think it would absolutely work, just like it works in Mexico. I also think it would be the first choice of people accustomed to it working.
    - teddyh 4y ago
      > I also think it would absolutely work, just like it works in Mexico. I feel that the U.S. Army would not respond favorably to terrorism. > I also think it would be the first choice of people accustomed to it working. Well, that may be true; they might be stupid enough to do that. I couldn’t really say; I’m just a random person on the internet without any special knowledge of their psychology.