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> they will just make everyone part time. The implicit threat here is withdrawal of benefits - specifically health care insurance

irrational 4y ago
So the USA doesn’t have universal healthcare so that it can be used to blackmail employees?
- zach_garwood 4y ago
  Correct
- bell-cot 4y ago
  Closer to the opposite - lack of universal healthcare in the USA is a huge downside for most employers here. And I suspect that any decent study would find that just not offering real healthcare (to employees) is 2+ orders of magnitude more common than "or else you won't get healthcare" blackmail.
- spoils19 4y ago
  Healthcare is a benefit and the lack of universal healthcare has resulted in a competitive market where customers are free to choose the level of care for their need and budget. Universal healthcare is the worst of all worlds, comparatively.
  - irrational 4y ago
    I’m sure all the people who have gone bankrupt from medical bills appreciate that sentiment. My brother in laws sister was recently diagnosed with cancer. Before she was diagnosed, she quit her job with benefits to stay home and take care of her father with advanced Parkinson’s. Her cancer is treatable, but she doesn’t have and can’t get insurance and doesn’t qualify for government help. Her choice is death or go into such incredible debt that she will never have hope to pay it off. She is 29. She has chosen death.
  - piva00 4y ago
    How are customers having a heart attack free to choose the level of care for their need and budget? Or poor cancer patients? Yes, Medicare might help but that brings up another layer of bureaucracy and constraints to be managed by the patient. A society is much better when it's healthy, leaving health to be taken care by the law of the jungle isn't really building a healthy society.
t0mas88 4y ago
Huh what? You don't get health insurance when you work part time in the US?
- zacharycohn 4y ago
  There are a few companies that buck the trend, but typically, no. You have to be full time (frequently defined as 32 hours a week or more) to qualify for company-subsidized health insurance.
- wahnfrieden 4y ago
  many companies keep their workers under full time to save the cost. in effect this is a handout from the govt to businesses and landlords to enable growth with low wages
- AnIdiotOnTheNet 4y ago
  Correct. This is how our country works because we are a nation of fools who worship the most wealthy among us.

irrational 4y ago

So the USA doesn’t have universal healthcare so that it can be used to blackmail employees?

zach_garwood 4y ago
Correct
bell-cot 4y ago
Closer to the opposite - lack of universal healthcare in the USA is a huge downside for most employers here. And I suspect that any decent study would find that just not offering real healthcare (to employees) is 2+ orders of magnitude more common than "or else you won't get healthcare" blackmail.
spoils19 4y ago
Healthcare is a benefit and the lack of universal healthcare has resulted in a competitive market where customers are free to choose the level of care for their need and budget. Universal healthcare is the worst of all worlds, comparatively.
- irrational 4y ago
  I’m sure all the people who have gone bankrupt from medical bills appreciate that sentiment. My brother in laws sister was recently diagnosed with cancer. Before she was diagnosed, she quit her job with benefits to stay home and take care of her father with advanced Parkinson’s. Her cancer is treatable, but she doesn’t have and can’t get insurance and doesn’t qualify for government help. Her choice is death or go into such incredible debt that she will never have hope to pay it off. She is 29. She has chosen death.
- piva00 4y ago
  How are customers having a heart attack free to choose the level of care for their need and budget? Or poor cancer patients? Yes, Medicare might help but that brings up another layer of bureaucracy and constraints to be managed by the patient. A society is much better when it's healthy, leaving health to be taken care by the law of the jungle isn't really building a healthy society.

t0mas88 4y ago

Huh what? You don't get health insurance when you work part time in the US?

zacharycohn 4y ago
There are a few companies that buck the trend, but typically, no. You have to be full time (frequently defined as 32 hours a week or more) to qualify for company-subsidized health insurance.
wahnfrieden 4y ago
many companies keep their workers under full time to save the cost. in effect this is a handout from the govt to businesses and landlords to enable growth with low wages
AnIdiotOnTheNet 4y ago
Correct. This is how our country works because we are a nation of fools who worship the most wealthy among us.