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> I do want to point out that the moment you call everything racist, nothing is racist. What was actually said is that if your criteria applies to racist actio

> I do want to point out that the moment you call everything racist, nothing is racist. What was actually said is that if your criteria applies to racist actions there's a problem with your criteria, in the same way that if your behavior results in someones death, there's a problem with your behavior. statistically speaking, most murders are perpetrated by black men. So statistically speaking, your garden variety racist is right to distrust their black neighbor. ^ that the above is true speaks clearly to the flaw in your thinking.

A4ET8a8uTh0 4y ago
<<"What was actually said is that if your criteria applies to racist actions there's a problem with your criteria" Could you elaborate a little bit? I do not want to put words in your mouth. What is the problem with my criteria? Are the criteria applied inherently racist? Am I racist the moment if I apply them even if they are not inherently racist? <<statistically speaking, most murders are perpetrated by black men. So statistically speaking, your garden variety racist is right to distrust their black neighbor. Well, duh. You don't have to convince me. As any city-dweller will tell you, as you approach a stranger on a sidewalk at night, you run an internal calculus of expected danger. You typically develop sharp senses rather fast as a result^ that the above is true speaks clearly to the flaw in your thinking. . I am thinking Chicago/New York ( but I would assume it applies to any bigger city really ). We can talk about whether it is fair or not, but that is the reality of our current existence. You want to change it, change the proportions and start putting more whities in jail ( I am all for increasing accountability; maybe things will improve in general if the laws are applied across the board ). Alternatively, we can try seeing what can be done to ensure less crimes are committed in urban areas so that whites don't flee to suburbs. <<^ that the above is true speaks clearly to the flaw in your thinking. What is that flaw?
- P5fRxh5kUvp2th 4y ago
  You just rationalized being on alert because a black stranger is walking towards you and not because you're in a bad neighborhood with a propensity for violence. And you're still asking what the flaw in your thinking is.
  - A4ET8a8uTh0 4y ago
    Yes, I am asking, because you fail to articulate an argument and avoid answering a single question, while I am being very open and clear. I am starting to think you do not argue in good faith, which is the cornerstone of HN. << and not because you're in a bad neighborhood You just assumed quite a lot about a hypothetical that I purposefully left open-ended. Note that I did not say black or bad neighborhood in it. << And you're still asking what the flaw in your thinking is. What is that flaw ( ideally, please refrain from saying I am evidently racist; it kinda undermines the argument with circular logic )? Note that this is the 2nd time I am asking that very question. If you won't offer something to work with, I will discontinue this conversation.
    - P5fRxh5kUvp2th 4y ago
      This reminds me of the following scene. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMz7JBRbmNo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMz7JBRbmNo
      - A4ET8a8uTh0 4y ago
        Eh, I will admit that I hoped for a little more after the effort I expended on this conversation. Sadly, you decided to not answer to any questions, but resorted to a.. lets call it a visual aid with little to no relevance to the conversation at hand ( which I will not comment on further ). In short, I no longer believe you engaged in good faith discussion. Fare well.

A4ET8a8uTh0 4y ago

<<"What was actually said is that if your criteria applies to racist actions there's a problem with your criteria" Could you elaborate a little bit? I do not want to put words in your mouth. What is the problem with my criteria? Are the criteria applied inherently racist? Am I racist the moment if I apply them even if they are not inherently racist? <<statistically speaking, most murders are perpetrated by black men. So statistically speaking, your garden variety racist is right to distrust their black neighbor. Well, duh. You don't have to convince me. As any city-dweller will tell you, as you approach a stranger on a sidewalk at night, you run an internal calculus of expected danger. You typically develop sharp senses rather fast as a result^ that the above is true speaks clearly to the flaw in your thinking. . I am thinking Chicago/New York ( but I would assume it applies to any bigger city really ). We can talk about whether it is fair or not, but that is the reality of our current existence. You want to change it, change the proportions and start putting more whities in jail ( I am all for increasing accountability; maybe things will improve in general if the laws are applied across the board ). Alternatively, we can try seeing what can be done to ensure less crimes are committed in urban areas so that whites don't flee to suburbs. <<^ that the above is true speaks clearly to the flaw in your thinking. What is that flaw?

P5fRxh5kUvp2th 4y ago
You just rationalized being on alert because a black stranger is walking towards you and not because you're in a bad neighborhood with a propensity for violence. And you're still asking what the flaw in your thinking is.
- A4ET8a8uTh0 4y ago
  Yes, I am asking, because you fail to articulate an argument and avoid answering a single question, while I am being very open and clear. I am starting to think you do not argue in good faith, which is the cornerstone of HN. << and not because you're in a bad neighborhood You just assumed quite a lot about a hypothetical that I purposefully left open-ended. Note that I did not say black or bad neighborhood in it. << And you're still asking what the flaw in your thinking is. What is that flaw ( ideally, please refrain from saying I am evidently racist; it kinda undermines the argument with circular logic )? Note that this is the 2nd time I am asking that very question. If you won't offer something to work with, I will discontinue this conversation.
  - P5fRxh5kUvp2th 4y ago
    This reminds me of the following scene. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMz7JBRbmNo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMz7JBRbmNo
    - A4ET8a8uTh0 4y ago
      Eh, I will admit that I hoped for a little more after the effort I expended on this conversation. Sadly, you decided to not answer to any questions, but resorted to a.. lets call it a visual aid with little to no relevance to the conversation at hand ( which I will not comment on further ). In short, I no longer believe you engaged in good faith discussion. Fare well.