> they weren't that hot about hypes either Are you really trying to convince me that the original hackers were tech-conservatives? They literally set the trend

> they weren't that hot about hypes either Are you really trying to convince me that the original hackers were tech-conservatives? They literally set the trends and built the future. Who are these marketing types you talk of? I don't dispute there is a lot of fluff and hype going around, but you chose yourself who you listen to. I follow true hackers like John Carmack, Jeri Ellsworth, Andrej Karpathy, George Hotz and prominent scientists like Yann LeCun. If all you find is hype and marketing that's on you. It's like people complaining that Twitter is bad, you decide who to follow!