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How will this work out with the ban on gasoline car sales? Are there plans & budget to upgrade the infrastructure? Are there plans & budget to replace/update/

How will this work out with the ban on gasoline car sales? Are there plans & budget to upgrade the infrastructure? Are there plans & budget to replace/update/install/negotiate new source of electric power? (asking as I am not Californian.)

EricE 4y ago
Those are tough questions someone else will surely answer some time in the future. In the mean time we get to pat ourselves on the back and feel good for ditching those icky internal combustion engines! On a more serious note - and people wonder how we end up where things like this get so dire? Here we go again!
plorkyeran 4y ago
Electric cars are primarily charged at off-peak times and so even with a full transition to electric (which is decades away) peak usage would only increase slightly.
- WaitWaitWha 4y ago
  > Electric cars are primarily charged at off-peak times When would that time be? I get home from work after 17:00/5:00PM. Plug in my EV, and set the air conditioner to a few degrees lower. I get up and leave for work at 7:00. EV cars with Level 2 charging take from 5h (Mini SE Hardtop) to 12h (Tesla Model S). The average is 8.6h, and median at 8h. [0,1] At Level 1 charging, the charging time can take days, depending on the vehicle. > According to California Public Utilities Commission (CPUC), the California Energy Commission (CEC) and California Independent System Operator (CAISO), the state’s electricity grid reaches its peak level of usage between the late afternoon and early evening – a time frame in which electricity produced by renewable resources is less available and thus costs more to produce. The peak demand period is generally defined as the hours between 4 to 9PM ... [1] With the above details, with the best case scenario on timing & charging, that means I must not plug in my vehicle before 9:00PM, but have to before 10:30PM. If California is hoping that people will plug in their vehicles "at the right time", that is not a re-assuring strategy. [0] https://www.carcareportal.com/how-long-does-it-take-to-charge-electric-cars/ https://www.carcareportal.com/how-long-does-it-take-to-charg... [1] https://www.carcovers.com/carresources/how-long-does-it-take-to-charge-an-electric-car/ https://www.carcovers.com/carresources/how-long-does-it-take... [2] https://energyupgradeca.org/time-of-use-faqs https://energyupgradeca.org/time-of-use-faqs
  - plorkyeran 4y ago
    You plug in your car when you get home, and it starts charging a few hours later at the scheduled time. This is not a remotely complicated problem and it's been solved for years.

EricE 4y ago

Those are tough questions someone else will surely answer some time in the future. In the mean time we get to pat ourselves on the back and feel good for ditching those icky internal combustion engines! On a more serious note - and people wonder how we end up where things like this get so dire? Here we go again!

plorkyeran 4y ago

Electric cars are primarily charged at off-peak times and so even with a full transition to electric (which is decades away) peak usage would only increase slightly.

WaitWaitWha 4y ago
> Electric cars are primarily charged at off-peak times When would that time be? I get home from work after 17:00/5:00PM. Plug in my EV, and set the air conditioner to a few degrees lower. I get up and leave for work at 7:00. EV cars with Level 2 charging take from 5h (Mini SE Hardtop) to 12h (Tesla Model S). The average is 8.6h, and median at 8h. [0,1] At Level 1 charging, the charging time can take days, depending on the vehicle. > According to California Public Utilities Commission (CPUC), the California Energy Commission (CEC) and California Independent System Operator (CAISO), the state’s electricity grid reaches its peak level of usage between the late afternoon and early evening – a time frame in which electricity produced by renewable resources is less available and thus costs more to produce. The peak demand period is generally defined as the hours between 4 to 9PM ... [1] With the above details, with the best case scenario on timing & charging, that means I must not plug in my vehicle before 9:00PM, but have to before 10:30PM. If California is hoping that people will plug in their vehicles "at the right time", that is not a re-assuring strategy. [0] https://www.carcareportal.com/how-long-does-it-take-to-charge-electric-cars/ https://www.carcareportal.com/how-long-does-it-take-to-charg... [1] https://www.carcovers.com/carresources/how-long-does-it-take-to-charge-an-electric-car/ https://www.carcovers.com/carresources/how-long-does-it-take... [2] https://energyupgradeca.org/time-of-use-faqs https://energyupgradeca.org/time-of-use-faqs
- plorkyeran 4y ago
  You plug in your car when you get home, and it starts charging a few hours later at the scheduled time. This is not a remotely complicated problem and it's been solved for years.