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Didn't California just ban non-electrical vehicles? If they don't have the grid capacity to support what exists now with a small spike...how will they support

Didn't California just ban non-electrical vehicles? If they don't have the grid capacity to support what exists now with a small spike...how will they support a hundred million EVs? EDIT: For everyone saying there's still 13 years until that happens. CA hasn't increased it's energy capacity since 2001. People think energy prices are bad now try 13 years with 100 million EV's. And by disallowing any source of cheap non-green Energy...democratic policies will essentially favor the rich who will be the only one's who can afford a 50,000 solar array to power a 30,000 EV. The non-rich will be on a bus with the homeless crazy people. Sources and clear evidence directly from CA dept. of energy. https://www.energy.ca.gov/data-reports/energy-almanac/california-electricity-data/electric-generation-capacity-and-energy https://www.energy.ca.gov/data-reports/energy-almanac/califo... Found this out from this poster: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32676518 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32676518

stragies 4y ago
They ban is effective starting only 2035, I thought. 13 more years to go before the deadline.
- Spivak 4y ago
  And it's only the sale of new gas cars. If your goal is to drive an ICE car for as long as humanly possible you could easily make it 30 years from today only buying new.
itsoktocry 4y ago
>Didn't Californian just ban non-electrical vehicles? Wasn't there a recent article on this very site, titled along the lines of "Yes, the US electric grid can handle EVs"?
colinmhayes 4y ago
They banned the sale of non-electric vehicles starting in 2035. Looking at automakers roadmaps, it'll be hard to find new ones by then, so this wasn't really a huge deal.
kagakuninja 4y ago
In addition to the ban happening in 2035, most people are charging their cars late at night, when there is surplus power. Although commuters may want to charge while at work. BTW, for the people shitting on California's ban, people seem to be forgetting that a number of automakers, including Ford, GM, Mercedes-Benz, have announced they are ending production of gasoline powered cars in... you guessed it, 2035. This is about economics. The gas powered car will soon be dead.
- EricE 4y ago
  Read the article - it specifically calls out they are concerned about deficiencies *at night*. When are you going to charge your electric cars again?
- newbie2020 4y ago
  It’s not economics - it’s a mandate. It’s the other way around. California is the biggest car market on the planet. All car makers target California (and to some extent Texas), so whatever California will buy, carmakers will build. And since California has outlawed gas cars by 2035, auto makers have declared they will stop making them by 2035.

stragies 4y ago

They ban is effective starting only 2035, I thought. 13 more years to go before the deadline.

Spivak 4y ago
And it's only the sale of new gas cars. If your goal is to drive an ICE car for as long as humanly possible you could easily make it 30 years from today only buying new.

itsoktocry 4y ago

>Didn't Californian just ban non-electrical vehicles? Wasn't there a recent article on this very site, titled along the lines of "Yes, the US electric grid can handle EVs"?

colinmhayes 4y ago

They banned the sale of non-electric vehicles starting in 2035. Looking at automakers roadmaps, it'll be hard to find new ones by then, so this wasn't really a huge deal.

kagakuninja 4y ago

In addition to the ban happening in 2035, most people are charging their cars late at night, when there is surplus power. Although commuters may want to charge while at work. BTW, for the people shitting on California's ban, people seem to be forgetting that a number of automakers, including Ford, GM, Mercedes-Benz, have announced they are ending production of gasoline powered cars in... you guessed it, 2035. This is about economics. The gas powered car will soon be dead.

EricE 4y ago
Read the article - it specifically calls out they are concerned about deficiencies *at night*. When are you going to charge your electric cars again?
newbie2020 4y ago
It’s not economics - it’s a mandate. It’s the other way around. California is the biggest car market on the planet. All car makers target California (and to some extent Texas), so whatever California will buy, carmakers will build. And since California has outlawed gas cars by 2035, auto makers have declared they will stop making them by 2035.