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For the same price you could get a Wera screwdriver, small screwdrivers and a bottle opener. https://products.wera.de/en/kraftform_kompakt_kraftform_kompakt_w

by omega3 4y ago

For the same price you could get a Wera screwdriver, small screwdrivers and a bottle opener. https://products.wera.de/en/kraftform_kompakt_kraftform_kompakt_with_ratchet_function_fine_tooth_system_for_precision_work_kk_27_ra_2_sb.html https://products.wera.de/en/kraftform_kompakt_kraftform_komp... https://products.wera.de/en/screwdrivers_series_kraftform_micro_kraftform_micro_12_universal_1.html https://products.wera.de/en/screwdrivers_series_kraftform_mi... https://products.wera.de/en/tools_for_bicycles_and_e-bikes_flaschenoeffner___bottle_opener.html https://products.wera.de/en/tools_for_bicycles_and_e-bikes_f...

hollywood_court 4y ago
Wera makes quality stuff. I keep a small set of Wera drivers and sockets in each of my vehicles. And I keep one of their multi drivers upstairs in my office and one downstairs in the kitchen. They get used weekly.
- snapplebobapple 4y ago
  I love wera too, their tool check plus stuff is so portable and so versatile. I keep a set in each of my vehicles and a set in the house (that solves 99% of my tool needs, I break out my big tool box maybe once a year at home now that I have this).
exhilaration 4y ago
A cursory Google search suggests all of their manufacturing is done in Germany, the Czech Republic, and Taiwan -- is that right?
- bombcar 4y ago
  That is correct. Wera are often considered "top tier" in the screwdriver arena.
  - tomcam 4y ago
    I just like knowing that there’s a screwdriver arena
Kye 4y ago
There's a reason this is sold right next to t-shirts and mouse pads. This is to support a channel and get something useful in return, not for people who are looking for the best value. LTT does at least put a lot of thought into the stuff they sell. It's not just white-label mystery meat from the cheapest manufacturer in Shenzhen's industrial district. I learned a lot more than I ever thought I wanted to know about Pantone from their video on the Pantone towers they bought for the designers.
_HMCB_ 4y ago
Can you buy their stuff in the USA? Looks amazing.
- 3pm 4y ago
  https://www.kctool.com/ https://www.kctool.com/
  - lostapathy 4y ago
    KC Tool are great people - I highly recommend them.
  - _HMCB_ 4y ago
    Awesome. Thank you!
- colechristensen 4y ago
  You can buy things from other countries and have it shipped here. But yes, Amazon has Wera products.
  - soperj 4y ago
    Maybe, could be a chinese knock off brand posing as Wera, you'll never know until it's shipped. edit: looks like Wera tools specifically are sold by a bunch of different people on Amazon, NEMobile, and BCFasteners are a couple that I've seen, so really no idea what you're getting.
    - colechristensen 4y ago
      Eh, Amazon was just an easy example. Grainger stocks Wera in the US https://www.grainger.com/category/tools?brandName=WERA&filters=brandName&gwwRemoveElement=true https://www.grainger.com/category/tools?brandName=WERA&filte...
      - soperj 4y ago
2rsf 4y ago
I can confirm, without knowing the name I bought one of their sets and it was the first time I enjoyed using screwdrivers without cursing
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rhinoceraptor 4y ago
I have the Wera ratcheting driver, and I don't really like it that much. The shaft is pretty wobbly from the handle, and there's a ton of slop when you have it locked and not ratcheting.
- geerlingguy 4y ago
  Surprisingly even a $16 Doyle driver from Harbor Freight has less slop in its ratcheting mechanism. Overall the Wera feels very nice but its ratchet isn't great.
  - rhinoceraptor 4y ago
    I'm also wary of tools with any kind of rubber overmolded handles. That rubber is going to break down after about 10 years, it will be sticky and you'll smell the butyric acid vomit smell. I've remember seeing a video of a 15 year old Wera driver with that issue.
    - serf 4y ago
      I own 20 year old overmolded Wera drivers that look a million times better than hard plastic Snap-On equivalents. Not all over-molded things use rubbers that'll break down quickly; and some don't even use rubber at all now that there are performant urethanes and other choices in the arena.
TheCapn 4y ago
This is pretty common in my experience? Market some relatively common item to an out-group of individuals at stupid markup based off brand recognition alone and reap the rewards. LTT looks to be flexing his brand here on unsuspecting PC enthusiasts where anyone with more experience in the electrical trades knows where to get higher quality tools for better/similar pricing. I'll compare to my time in Paintball years ago. Any site marketing woodsball gear to paintballers had nutty markups, but if you went to any Army Surplus or Hunting outfitter you could get a lot of similar gear for way cheaper at better quality because it wasn't marketed specifically to a niche sport relying on brand name alone. It happens all over the place. Consumers not doing their due diligence have only themselves to blame.
- kaladin-jasnah 4y ago
  Another example: I feel like DACs have the same problem where companies like Schiit market their products to Hi-fi enthusiasts when you can get an audio interface with similar performance for a much lower price.
- ptasci67 4y ago
  I take the video with a grain of salt of course but just to be fair here, the video spends the majority of its time explaining in great detail why Linus did NOT just slap his name on a megapro screwdriver. I actually found the minute details of how they designed, prototyped, and stressed over the screwdriver quite fascinating and while it may or may not translate to quality... it at least is a weak signal to me that someone considered every facet which I believe is somewhat correlated with quality.
- isitmadeofglass 4y ago
  > Market some relatively common item to an out-group of individuals at stupid markup based off brand recognition alone and reap the rewards. Yes, but is that really so bad? I mean you can get cheaper T-Shirts with better quality than the ones at the merch stand at concerts. People don’t buy them because they are under some delusion that their great value for price. They buy them to support the creators, and to be able to show and talk about their support of the creator to others.
- 4y ago
greycol 4y ago
Their bottle opener is great, I spent a while looking for a decent one and ended up with it without knowing the wera brand beforehand. I'm not joking when I say I've bough some of their tools because the bottleopener was such good quality.
walrus01 4y ago
Or Wiha, which is also a very reputable German-manufactured steel hand tool company. Similarly named to Wera but a competitor. https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&q=wiha+screwdriver https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&q=wiha+scre... they make some excellent torx, security torx, hex, precision screwdriver sets. in addition to the larger stuff they make for 600/1000V insulated electrical use.
- kabes 4y ago
  And Wiha actually came out better than Wera in some project farm tests. After I went all in on wera screwdrivers and bits. Even though I rarely need them, it hurts.
- nyanpasu64 4y ago
  Personal story, I ordered https://www.wihatools.com/products/precision-phillips-screwdrivers-4-piece-set https://www.wihatools.com/products/precision-phillips-screwd.... On the plus side, the Phillips screwdrivers are hardened and almost impervious to camming out/slipping (but can still strip on bad screws if you don't apply any pressure), unlike my cheap Amazon screwdriver kit which chewed up Phillips screws for a living. On the downside, the PH0 screwdriver's endcap wasn't spinning freely (until I cut a bigger gap and it spun freely but had increased plastic-on-plastic friction when I pressed down on the screwdriver), and I went through support to get a replacement PH0 screwdriver; I'm not sure whether to feel better or worse about the company. Shape-wise, the screwdrivers are not suited for applying large amounts of torque, but that's not a design defect but a result of being precision screwdrivers and the shape chosen. Next time I might try a Wera screwdriver, or an iFixit kit (https://www.ifixit.com/Store/Tools/Minnow-Driver-Kit/IF145-474 https://www.ifixit.com/Store/Tools/Minnow-Driver-Kit/IF145-4... is the cheapest multi-bit kit but not the most popular one). I wish electronics were built with Torx screws. Those are practically impervious to stripping if fully inserted, even with the cheapest steel possible (though cheap steel drivers can probably still deform and strip). I've heard mixed things about using JIS (looks like Phillips, isn't Phillips) screwdrivers on Phillips screws, and good things about using them in JIS screws.
  - walrus01 4y ago
dsego 4y ago
Or something like this socket wrench set, the screwdriver handle with a T-bar comes in handy. https://www.proxxon.com/en/industrial/23080.php https://www.proxxon.com/en/industrial/23080.php
aaron695 4y ago
hallz 4y ago
The Wera 816 RA Ratchet Screwdriver is good (I got it in the set). The best part is the quick connect which allows you to use any standard bit with it. Interchangable with your impact driver and if you break one you can just replace it. The advantage of having the quick connect right at the handle is that the bit shaft is as thin as possible which is really handing for dissassembling products/things where a screw is down in a deep recess. The ratchet does take a little bit of force to engage which does make it average for pc building.
skjoldr 4y ago
LTT had Wera, Wiha, and other screwdrivers available during their streamed sales event for people to compare their screwdriver to, so considering the volume of sales they still managed to achieve, it ought to be better than a Wera for some. Though I'd still prefer a Wera Kraftform Kompakt 20, the telescopic bit holder is neat.

by omega3 4y ago

hollywood_court 4y ago

Wera makes quality stuff. I keep a small set of Wera drivers and sockets in each of my vehicles. And I keep one of their multi drivers upstairs in my office and one downstairs in the kitchen. They get used weekly.

snapplebobapple 4y ago
I love wera too, their tool check plus stuff is so portable and so versatile. I keep a set in each of my vehicles and a set in the house (that solves 99% of my tool needs, I break out my big tool box maybe once a year at home now that I have this).

exhilaration 4y ago

A cursory Google search suggests all of their manufacturing is done in Germany, the Czech Republic, and Taiwan -- is that right?

bombcar 4y ago
That is correct. Wera are often considered "top tier" in the screwdriver arena.
- tomcam 4y ago
  I just like knowing that there’s a screwdriver arena

Kye 4y ago

There's a reason this is sold right next to t-shirts and mouse pads. This is to support a channel and get something useful in return, not for people who are looking for the best value. LTT does at least put a lot of thought into the stuff they sell. It's not just white-label mystery meat from the cheapest manufacturer in Shenzhen's industrial district. I learned a lot more than I ever thought I wanted to know about Pantone from their video on the Pantone towers they bought for the designers.

_HMCB_ 4y ago

Can you buy their stuff in the USA? Looks amazing.

3pm 4y ago
https://www.kctool.com/ https://www.kctool.com/
- lostapathy 4y ago
  KC Tool are great people - I highly recommend them.
- _HMCB_ 4y ago
  Awesome. Thank you!
colechristensen 4y ago
You can buy things from other countries and have it shipped here. But yes, Amazon has Wera products.
- soperj 4y ago
  Maybe, could be a chinese knock off brand posing as Wera, you'll never know until it's shipped. edit: looks like Wera tools specifically are sold by a bunch of different people on Amazon, NEMobile, and BCFasteners are a couple that I've seen, so really no idea what you're getting.
  - colechristensen 4y ago
    Eh, Amazon was just an easy example. Grainger stocks Wera in the US https://www.grainger.com/category/tools?brandName=WERA&filters=brandName&gwwRemoveElement=true https://www.grainger.com/category/tools?brandName=WERA&filte...
    - soperj 4y ago

2rsf 4y ago

I can confirm, without knowing the name I bought one of their sets and it was the first time I enjoyed using screwdrivers without cursing

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rhinoceraptor 4y ago

I have the Wera ratcheting driver, and I don't really like it that much. The shaft is pretty wobbly from the handle, and there's a ton of slop when you have it locked and not ratcheting.

geerlingguy 4y ago
Surprisingly even a $16 Doyle driver from Harbor Freight has less slop in its ratcheting mechanism. Overall the Wera feels very nice but its ratchet isn't great.
- rhinoceraptor 4y ago
  I'm also wary of tools with any kind of rubber overmolded handles. That rubber is going to break down after about 10 years, it will be sticky and you'll smell the butyric acid vomit smell. I've remember seeing a video of a 15 year old Wera driver with that issue.
  - serf 4y ago
    I own 20 year old overmolded Wera drivers that look a million times better than hard plastic Snap-On equivalents. Not all over-molded things use rubbers that'll break down quickly; and some don't even use rubber at all now that there are performant urethanes and other choices in the arena.

TheCapn 4y ago

This is pretty common in my experience? Market some relatively common item to an out-group of individuals at stupid markup based off brand recognition alone and reap the rewards. LTT looks to be flexing his brand here on unsuspecting PC enthusiasts where anyone with more experience in the electrical trades knows where to get higher quality tools for better/similar pricing. I'll compare to my time in Paintball years ago. Any site marketing woodsball gear to paintballers had nutty markups, but if you went to any Army Surplus or Hunting outfitter you could get a lot of similar gear for way cheaper at better quality because it wasn't marketed specifically to a niche sport relying on brand name alone. It happens all over the place. Consumers not doing their due diligence have only themselves to blame.

kaladin-jasnah 4y ago
Another example: I feel like DACs have the same problem where companies like Schiit market their products to Hi-fi enthusiasts when you can get an audio interface with similar performance for a much lower price.
ptasci67 4y ago
I take the video with a grain of salt of course but just to be fair here, the video spends the majority of its time explaining in great detail why Linus did NOT just slap his name on a megapro screwdriver. I actually found the minute details of how they designed, prototyped, and stressed over the screwdriver quite fascinating and while it may or may not translate to quality... it at least is a weak signal to me that someone considered every facet which I believe is somewhat correlated with quality.
isitmadeofglass 4y ago
> Market some relatively common item to an out-group of individuals at stupid markup based off brand recognition alone and reap the rewards. Yes, but is that really so bad? I mean you can get cheaper T-Shirts with better quality than the ones at the merch stand at concerts. People don’t buy them because they are under some delusion that their great value for price. They buy them to support the creators, and to be able to show and talk about their support of the creator to others.
4y ago

greycol 4y ago

Their bottle opener is great, I spent a while looking for a decent one and ended up with it without knowing the wera brand beforehand. I'm not joking when I say I've bough some of their tools because the bottleopener was such good quality.

walrus01 4y ago

Or Wiha, which is also a very reputable German-manufactured steel hand tool company. Similarly named to Wera but a competitor. https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&q=wiha+screwdriver https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&q=wiha+scre... they make some excellent torx, security torx, hex, precision screwdriver sets. in addition to the larger stuff they make for 600/1000V insulated electrical use.

kabes 4y ago
And Wiha actually came out better than Wera in some project farm tests. After I went all in on wera screwdrivers and bits. Even though I rarely need them, it hurts.
nyanpasu64 4y ago
Personal story, I ordered https://www.wihatools.com/products/precision-phillips-screwdrivers-4-piece-set https://www.wihatools.com/products/precision-phillips-screwd.... On the plus side, the Phillips screwdrivers are hardened and almost impervious to camming out/slipping (but can still strip on bad screws if you don't apply any pressure), unlike my cheap Amazon screwdriver kit which chewed up Phillips screws for a living. On the downside, the PH0 screwdriver's endcap wasn't spinning freely (until I cut a bigger gap and it spun freely but had increased plastic-on-plastic friction when I pressed down on the screwdriver), and I went through support to get a replacement PH0 screwdriver; I'm not sure whether to feel better or worse about the company. Shape-wise, the screwdrivers are not suited for applying large amounts of torque, but that's not a design defect but a result of being precision screwdrivers and the shape chosen. Next time I might try a Wera screwdriver, or an iFixit kit (https://www.ifixit.com/Store/Tools/Minnow-Driver-Kit/IF145-474 https://www.ifixit.com/Store/Tools/Minnow-Driver-Kit/IF145-4... is the cheapest multi-bit kit but not the most popular one). I wish electronics were built with Torx screws. Those are practically impervious to stripping if fully inserted, even with the cheapest steel possible (though cheap steel drivers can probably still deform and strip). I've heard mixed things about using JIS (looks like Phillips, isn't Phillips) screwdrivers on Phillips screws, and good things about using them in JIS screws.
- walrus01 4y ago

dsego 4y ago

Or something like this socket wrench set, the screwdriver handle with a T-bar comes in handy. https://www.proxxon.com/en/industrial/23080.php https://www.proxxon.com/en/industrial/23080.php

aaron695 4y ago

hallz 4y ago

The Wera 816 RA Ratchet Screwdriver is good (I got it in the set). The best part is the quick connect which allows you to use any standard bit with it. Interchangable with your impact driver and if you break one you can just replace it. The advantage of having the quick connect right at the handle is that the bit shaft is as thin as possible which is really handing for dissassembling products/things where a screw is down in a deep recess. The ratchet does take a little bit of force to engage which does make it average for pc building.

skjoldr 4y ago

LTT had Wera, Wiha, and other screwdrivers available during their streamed sales event for people to compare their screwdriver to, so considering the volume of sales they still managed to achieve, it ought to be better than a Wera for some. Though I'd still prefer a Wera Kraftform Kompakt 20, the telescopic bit holder is neat.