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If there's anything I've learned from the conflict in Ukraine, as well as 2020 Nagorno-Karabakh war, it is that small-explosives drone usage has become a first-

If there's anything I've learned from the conflict in Ukraine, as well as 2020 Nagorno-Karabakh war, it is that small-explosives drone usage has become a first-class citizen weaponry / tactic against ground troops. There's a daily stream of footage from Ukraine, where you see Russian ground troops getting bombed by DIY drones dropping grenades / mortar rounds / etc. Drones are also becoming invaluable tools as forward observers for artillery and mortar fire. I'm in the National Guard, and I feel that in any modern combat - we'd just be sitting ducks.

2OEH8eoCRo0 4y ago
Civilian drones can be jammed. Jammers are used to counter remotely detonated IEDs already.
- gpderetta 4y ago
  Yes, but now you need to have jammers everywhere you have troops.
  - 2OEH8eoCRo0 4y ago
    The IED jammers were man-portable backpacks.
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- TrackerFF 4y ago
  Yes, but jammers can be expensive - and AFAIK, they are directional. At least the ones I've seen in action, so you'd have to know at least the direction of the drone. The big challenge is that the drones are quite small, and quite the distance above. In many cases the soldiers are completely oblivious of the drones, and will frankly not know until somethings detonated right beside them.
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- TheLoafOfBread 4y ago
  Jammer is a massive radio beacon screaming into a void your position. So nice on paper but will work against you.
  - AnimalMuppet 4y ago
    Only if it's at your position. If you have a few that aren't at your position, but somewhat close, you might be able to have effective jamming covering your position without having anything actually at your position.
    - TheLoafOfBread 4y ago
      So EM radiation guided loitering ammunition when?
      - 2OEH8eoCRo0 4y ago
        Lots of counter drone tech incoming: https://www.lockheedmartin.com/en-us/news/features/2016/webt-laser-swarms-drones.html https://www.lockheedmartin.com/en-us/news/features/2016/webt... https://www.thedefensepost.com/2022/04/06/raytheon-laser-counter-drone-system/ https://www.thedefensepost.com/2022/04/06/raytheon-laser-cou... https://www.military.com/equipment/weapons/beam-wide-range-counter-drone-technologies-comes-age.html https://www.military.com/equipment/weapons/beam-wide-range-c... Also- If you try to launch a COTS drone near troops with sophisticated air on station you are about to have a very bad day.
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meheleventyone 4y ago
I wonder how effective these drone attacks have actually been beyond being great for propaganda. For example compared to the more conventional indirect fire weapons.
- deepstack 4y ago
  not to mention Russians has great mastery of EMF warfare pretty well. Pretty sure it won't take much to hack or disable these drones. Won't trust any of these kind of tech for war fare too much.

2OEH8eoCRo0 4y ago

Civilian drones can be jammed. Jammers are used to counter remotely detonated IEDs already.

gpderetta 4y ago
Yes, but now you need to have jammers everywhere you have troops.
- 2OEH8eoCRo0 4y ago
  The IED jammers were man-portable backpacks.
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TrackerFF 4y ago
Yes, but jammers can be expensive - and AFAIK, they are directional. At least the ones I've seen in action, so you'd have to know at least the direction of the drone. The big challenge is that the drones are quite small, and quite the distance above. In many cases the soldiers are completely oblivious of the drones, and will frankly not know until somethings detonated right beside them.
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TheLoafOfBread 4y ago
Jammer is a massive radio beacon screaming into a void your position. So nice on paper but will work against you.
- AnimalMuppet 4y ago
  Only if it's at your position. If you have a few that aren't at your position, but somewhat close, you might be able to have effective jamming covering your position without having anything actually at your position.
  - TheLoafOfBread 4y ago
    So EM radiation guided loitering ammunition when?
    - 2OEH8eoCRo0 4y ago
      Lots of counter drone tech incoming: https://www.lockheedmartin.com/en-us/news/features/2016/webt-laser-swarms-drones.html https://www.lockheedmartin.com/en-us/news/features/2016/webt... https://www.thedefensepost.com/2022/04/06/raytheon-laser-counter-drone-system/ https://www.thedefensepost.com/2022/04/06/raytheon-laser-cou... https://www.military.com/equipment/weapons/beam-wide-range-counter-drone-technologies-comes-age.html https://www.military.com/equipment/weapons/beam-wide-range-c... Also- If you try to launch a COTS drone near troops with sophisticated air on station you are about to have a very bad day.
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meheleventyone 4y ago

I wonder how effective these drone attacks have actually been beyond being great for propaganda. For example compared to the more conventional indirect fire weapons.

deepstack 4y ago
not to mention Russians has great mastery of EMF warfare pretty well. Pretty sure it won't take much to hack or disable these drones. Won't trust any of these kind of tech for war fare too much.