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Whoa, I strongly disagree with this. As someone who attended an evangelical, fundamentalist Baptist church as a child (Hyles Anderson), it is very much their v

Whoa, I strongly disagree with this. As someone who attended an evangelical, fundamentalist Baptist church as a child (Hyles Anderson), it is very much their view as well as larger groups like Independent and Southern Baptists (the largest Protestant denomination in the United States) that the existence of the nation of Israel and support for it is a precursor for the second coming of Jesus and the fulfillment of Gods plan. Additionally, “Christian Zionism” is embraced by Christians in Australia and Western Europe as well. There are academic sources for this everywhere, but feel free to watch their sermons on YouTube too: [1] https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/politics-and-religion/article/abs/why-do-evangelicals-support-israel/F8AB8C41F0B019FD8413A30EF218EBE4 https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/politics-and-religio... [2] https://www.brandeis.edu/israel-center/news/newsletter-5-robins.html https://www.brandeis.edu/israel-center/news/newsletter-5-rob...

numeromancer 4y ago
- edanm 4y ago
  I don't mean to be rude, but this sounds fairly anti-semitic. "It doesn't matter about what all the Christian groups think, what matters is that the Zionists [implied to be Jews?] are buying the legislation". This might definitely not be your intent - but that is for sure how I am currently parsing your comment.
  - jollofricepeas 4y ago
    Agreed. 1. Obviously anti-semitic 2. Not even true. The Christian Right lobby is HUGE and includes evangelical Protestants, Catholics, and LDS. 3. The Christian far right is significant and spent over 10% of the total lobbying spend in the last election cycle. Sources: [1] https://www.pewresearch.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/7/2011/11/religiousadvocacy_web.pdf https://www.pewresearch.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/7/2011/... [2] https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/5050/trump-us-christian-spending-global-revealed/ https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/5050/trump-us-christian-spe...
- panick21_ 4y ago
  Christian Zionists are a very import part of the Israel lobby and extend the power of that lobby in many places that it otherwise wouldn't be. Given how many left leaning Jewish people in the US have decreased their support for Israel, Christian Zionists give them a real ground support to the movement that is otherwise more dominated educated elites. And depending on your definition of 'Zeal' the christian zionists often have more. A educated Neo-Conservative might be a strong Zionist but not will not come across as having Zeal, while a Baptist Christian Zionists might come of as pure Zeal.

numeromancer 4y ago

edanm 4y ago
I don't mean to be rude, but this sounds fairly anti-semitic. "It doesn't matter about what all the Christian groups think, what matters is that the Zionists [implied to be Jews?] are buying the legislation". This might definitely not be your intent - but that is for sure how I am currently parsing your comment.
- jollofricepeas 4y ago
  Agreed. 1. Obviously anti-semitic 2. Not even true. The Christian Right lobby is HUGE and includes evangelical Protestants, Catholics, and LDS. 3. The Christian far right is significant and spent over 10% of the total lobbying spend in the last election cycle. Sources: [1] https://www.pewresearch.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/7/2011/11/religiousadvocacy_web.pdf https://www.pewresearch.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/7/2011/... [2] https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/5050/trump-us-christian-spending-global-revealed/ https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/5050/trump-us-christian-spe...
panick21_ 4y ago
Christian Zionists are a very import part of the Israel lobby and extend the power of that lobby in many places that it otherwise wouldn't be. Given how many left leaning Jewish people in the US have decreased their support for Israel, Christian Zionists give them a real ground support to the movement that is otherwise more dominated educated elites. And depending on your definition of 'Zeal' the christian zionists often have more. A educated Neo-Conservative might be a strong Zionist but not will not come across as having Zeal, while a Baptist Christian Zionists might come of as pure Zeal.