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"Allen said that he made clear that his artwork was generated with Midjourney, an online AI art tool, when he was dropping off his artwork and in his narrative

by yreg 4y ago

"Allen said that he made clear that his artwork was generated with Midjourney, an online AI art tool, when he was dropping off his artwork and in his narrative submission. Olga Robak, the director of communications with the Colorado Department of Agriculture, confirmed that Allen mentioned Midjourney in his submission statement. According to fair rules, anybody can file a grievance against submitted items — but they will need to post a $300 bond, cite specific rules that have been broken and present a grievance letter in person. The bond can be returned if the grievance leads to a violation of the rules but Robak said a preliminary review showed Allen had not broken any." — https://eu.chieftain.com/story/news/2022/08/31/ai-painting-wins-at-colorado-state-fair-pueblo-artist-explains-jason-allen/65466872007/ https://eu.chieftain.com/story/news/2022/08/31/ai-painting-w...

Jarmsy 4y ago
That "an online AI art tool" in the first sentence is potentially misleading, as the clarification is being made in this article, but this clarification was not made by the artist at the time. He said (in the Midjourney Discord) that when submitting he "stated that he made them via Midjourney", but it sounds like he didn't make clear that this was an AI tool. Sincarnate — 26/08/2022 Yes the description clearly stated I created them via Midjourney starshadowx2 — 26/08/2022 Was it explained what Midjourney was though Sincarnate — 26/08/2022 This is why I did it. Should I have explained what Midjourney was? If so, why? He also mentions that he originally mentioned Midjourney in the caption, but didn't correct them when they edited that part out. I think these sorts of details do matter.
- YetAnotherNick 4y ago
  Even though is intentionally deceiving, he didn't broke any rule.
  - Jarmsy 4y ago
    I'm not sure I'd even call it intentionally deceiving, just a significant omission. I think it is part of why some people were annoyed though - it's obviously a bit more nuanced than the headline suggests, and not all a bunch of luddites totally against the use of AI in art. The specifics matter - some people found particular aspects of how this person went about it annoying.

by yreg 4y ago

Jarmsy 4y ago

That "an online AI art tool" in the first sentence is potentially misleading, as the clarification is being made in this article, but this clarification was not made by the artist at the time. He said (in the Midjourney Discord) that when submitting he "stated that he made them via Midjourney", but it sounds like he didn't make clear that this was an AI tool. Sincarnate — 26/08/2022 Yes the description clearly stated I created them via Midjourney starshadowx2 — 26/08/2022 Was it explained what Midjourney was though Sincarnate — 26/08/2022 This is why I did it. Should I have explained what Midjourney was? If so, why? He also mentions that he originally mentioned Midjourney in the caption, but didn't correct them when they edited that part out. I think these sorts of details do matter.

YetAnotherNick 4y ago
Even though is intentionally deceiving, he didn't broke any rule.
- Jarmsy 4y ago
  I'm not sure I'd even call it intentionally deceiving, just a significant omission. I think it is part of why some people were annoyed though - it's obviously a bit more nuanced than the headline suggests, and not all a bunch of luddites totally against the use of AI in art. The specifics matter - some people found particular aspects of how this person went about it annoying.