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You do see it, but it's really not that common. As an example, here's a walk through one of the Copenhagen harbour baths in 2022: https://youtu.be/S8t6sYECNUI h

You do see it, but it's really not that common. As an example, here's a walk through one of the Copenhagen harbour baths in 2022: https://youtu.be/S8t6sYECNUI https://youtu.be/S8t6sYECNUI

netsharc 4y ago
The act of you linking the video in this context is very ironic. Yeah, I wonder why girls are less topless nowadays -- maybe because the chances of their private parts ending up on YouTube is much higher?
- giantg2 4y ago
  Or is it that they are considering breasts as private now, when they weren't (or not as much) as before? If it's normal and there's no social stigma, then who cares. But now if there is increasing stigma, at least in that the images could be used against you in the future, then that seems more like the problem.
  - netsharc 4y ago
    This is probably in the article (I haven't read it...), but my guess is, in the past they probably didn't care if people had a glimpse, there were no cameras, and most people were polite enough not to ogle; but nowadays people can just pull out their phones and record for (presumably) their sexual gratification later. Warning, this is analysis from not an anthropologist/sociologist: Maybe the prevalance of porn and screens to view them on has also made for creepier men/men who are now more used to viewing women as objects. I remember reading an article many years ago about how teenage girls are acting more like porn stars because they believe that's what attracts guys...
    - giantg2 4y ago
      "but nowadays people can just pull out their phones and record for (presumably) their sexual gratification later." As someone who grew up as a teen without a phone, I can say that mental pictures can be enjoyed (even without ogling), and it was very common. I agree that the second paragraph is likely. Although if the girls are acting more like pornstars, wouldn't that make nudity less of an issue (or more normalized) even with a sexualizing audience?
- confidantlake 4y ago
  That is a huge part, another large part is the world is now more global and the prudishness of America has become part of other cultures. My father is from an Eastern European country so I traveled there as a kid. The cultures were very different. You saw bare breasts at pools, in tv commercials, etc. Few people owned cars, no one wore deodorant, all of the food was local style, ie people didn't even eat pasta. It was truly like stepping into a different world. Now with the internet it is basically like the US with a different language. Being nude is frowned upon in the US and it is now frowned upon there. No one is going topless to the pool anymore and you can find pasta everywhere.
- playingalong 4y ago
  Your use of the word "act" is also ironic.
- simongray 4y ago
  This started way before Youtube or smartphones in Denmark.

You do see it, but it's really not that common. As an example, here's a walk through one of the Copenhagen harbour baths in 2022: https://youtu.be/S8t6sYECNUI https://youtu.be/S8t6sYECNUI

netsharc 4y ago

The act of you linking the video in this context is very ironic. Yeah, I wonder why girls are less topless nowadays -- maybe because the chances of their private parts ending up on YouTube is much higher?

giantg2 4y ago
Or is it that they are considering breasts as private now, when they weren't (or not as much) as before? If it's normal and there's no social stigma, then who cares. But now if there is increasing stigma, at least in that the images could be used against you in the future, then that seems more like the problem.
- netsharc 4y ago
  This is probably in the article (I haven't read it...), but my guess is, in the past they probably didn't care if people had a glimpse, there were no cameras, and most people were polite enough not to ogle; but nowadays people can just pull out their phones and record for (presumably) their sexual gratification later. Warning, this is analysis from not an anthropologist/sociologist: Maybe the prevalance of porn and screens to view them on has also made for creepier men/men who are now more used to viewing women as objects. I remember reading an article many years ago about how teenage girls are acting more like porn stars because they believe that's what attracts guys...
  - giantg2 4y ago
    "but nowadays people can just pull out their phones and record for (presumably) their sexual gratification later." As someone who grew up as a teen without a phone, I can say that mental pictures can be enjoyed (even without ogling), and it was very common. I agree that the second paragraph is likely. Although if the girls are acting more like pornstars, wouldn't that make nudity less of an issue (or more normalized) even with a sexualizing audience?
confidantlake 4y ago
That is a huge part, another large part is the world is now more global and the prudishness of America has become part of other cultures. My father is from an Eastern European country so I traveled there as a kid. The cultures were very different. You saw bare breasts at pools, in tv commercials, etc. Few people owned cars, no one wore deodorant, all of the food was local style, ie people didn't even eat pasta. It was truly like stepping into a different world. Now with the internet it is basically like the US with a different language. Being nude is frowned upon in the US and it is now frowned upon there. No one is going topless to the pool anymore and you can find pasta everywhere.
playingalong 4y ago
Your use of the word "act" is also ironic.
simongray 4y ago
This started way before Youtube or smartphones in Denmark.