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> ... team orders are a part of the sport rather than a form of cheating. As much as the fans like to complain about it, there’s only really a few controversial

by shakna 4y ago

> ... team orders are a part of the sport rather than a form of cheating. As much as the fans like to complain about it, there’s only really a few controversial cases... Actually, if a team order changes a ranking, and it can be proved, then the team is automatically issued a fine. Just because the team orders happen, does not actually mean that they're _allowed_ to happen. The fines are generally in the order of $100k-$250k. Team orders have been banned in F1 since 2008 [0]: > 152. Team orders which interfere with a race result are prohibited. There's a reason that Smedley's quote is infamous: > Fernando is faster than you. Can you confirm you understand that message? [0] https://web.archive.org/web/20081206120227/https://paddocktalk.com/news/html/modules/ew_filemanager/07images/f1/fia/033007_2008_F1_SPORTING_REGULATIONS.pdf https://web.archive.org/web/20081206120227/https://paddockta...

singlow 4y ago
Team orders were banned in 2002 but it was lifted in 2011.
Andrew_nenakhov 4y ago
> Team orders have been banned in F1 since 2008 [0]: This statement is misleading, as it gives the appearance that this ban is still in effect. However, the ban was repealed at the end of 2010 season. [0] [0]: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Team_orders https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Team_orders
- thaumasiotes 4y ago
  >> Team orders have been banned in F1 since 2008 [0]: > This statement is misleading, as it gives the appearance that this ban is still in effect. Not quite. The statement is false, because it states outright that the ban is still in effect.
AmericanChopper 4y ago
That ban on team orders was repealed very soon after it was implemented. F1 is currently, and has been for nearly its entire history, a team sport, where team orders are allowed.
martin_a 4y ago
> The fines are generally in the order of $100k-$250k. Seems like the budget for a F1 team is around 140 million Euro/year. Not sure these fines make anybody feel uncomfortable.

by shakna 4y ago

singlow 4y ago

Team orders were banned in 2002 but it was lifted in 2011.

Andrew_nenakhov 4y ago

> Team orders have been banned in F1 since 2008 [0]: This statement is misleading, as it gives the appearance that this ban is still in effect. However, the ban was repealed at the end of 2010 season. [0] [0]: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Team_orders https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Team_orders

thaumasiotes 4y ago
>> Team orders have been banned in F1 since 2008 [0]: > This statement is misleading, as it gives the appearance that this ban is still in effect. Not quite. The statement is false, because it states outright that the ban is still in effect.

AmericanChopper 4y ago

That ban on team orders was repealed very soon after it was implemented. F1 is currently, and has been for nearly its entire history, a team sport, where team orders are allowed.

martin_a 4y ago

> The fines are generally in the order of $100k-$250k. Seems like the budget for a F1 team is around 140 million Euro/year. Not sure these fines make anybody feel uncomfortable.