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Google operates a numer of stores for books, movies, music, apps, electronics and more. But that being said, I meant the "and" following the statement quoted t

by shkkmo 4y ago

Google operates a numer of stores for books, movies, music, apps, electronics and more. But that being said, I meant the "and" following the statement quoted to be an "or". The cliche of "if you aren't the customer, then you're the product" leaves out the important detail that you can always be both. Being a paying customer is no protection when you are in a business relationship where your have no power, especially when tou have few alternatives.

pdonis 4y ago
> Google operates a number of stores for books, movies, music, apps, electronics and more. None of which are relevant to the issues of privacy being discussed. The relevant Google services, such as GMail, are provided for free (meaning no money is paid); that's why so many individuals and institutions, including government-run schools, shortsightedly adopt them without considering the actual (non-monetary) costs. > Being a paying customer is no protection when ...you are only a paying customer for products that have nothing to do with what you're complaining about. Google isn't going to care any more about your GMail privacy just because you happen to have bought some books, movies, music, or apps on Google Play or own a Pixel phone. They have demonstrated that quite clearly for years now.
- shkkmo 4y ago
  > None of which are relevant to the issues of privacy being discussed. The issue being discussed is a company like Google banning your account with no recourse. Privacy only comes into play in this discussion because the given reason for the ban comes from the scanning of Google Drive uploads for CSAM, which has nothing to do with Google selling your data or targeting ads at you and is done regardless of whether you pay for Google Drive storage or not. Google operates a single account across all their services, so a ban for a Google Drive CSAM false positive means that you lose access to not only the contents of your drive, but also any books, movies, music, apps, cell service, advertising campaign, hosting, etc.

by shkkmo 4y ago

pdonis 4y ago

> Google operates a number of stores for books, movies, music, apps, electronics and more. None of which are relevant to the issues of privacy being discussed. The relevant Google services, such as GMail, are provided for free (meaning no money is paid); that's why so many individuals and institutions, including government-run schools, shortsightedly adopt them without considering the actual (non-monetary) costs. > Being a paying customer is no protection when ...you are only a paying customer for products that have nothing to do with what you're complaining about. Google isn't going to care any more about your GMail privacy just because you happen to have bought some books, movies, music, or apps on Google Play or own a Pixel phone. They have demonstrated that quite clearly for years now.

shkkmo 4y ago
> None of which are relevant to the issues of privacy being discussed. The issue being discussed is a company like Google banning your account with no recourse. Privacy only comes into play in this discussion because the given reason for the ban comes from the scanning of Google Drive uploads for CSAM, which has nothing to do with Google selling your data or targeting ads at you and is done regardless of whether you pay for Google Drive storage or not. Google operates a single account across all their services, so a ban for a Google Drive CSAM false positive means that you lose access to not only the contents of your drive, but also any books, movies, music, apps, cell service, advertising campaign, hosting, etc.