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Tell HN: I want to teach you web development. In 8 weeks. For free (sort of)
Want to become a web developer?
Are you based in the Bay Area?
Can you take next February and March off?
I want to teach 6 people Ruby on Rails from scratch. Hands on. In person. 5 days a week, for 8 weeks. No computer science background required.
There is such high demand for good ruby devs right now. I'm willing to invest my time, money and energy upfront to get you in good enough shape to land a job as a Junior Rails Developer.
I will line up several companies that would be very interested in interviewing you. If you get a job with any of them, they'll pay me your tuition, so you get the training for free.
What do you think?
- yamilg 15y agoI'm not in the US, is there any way to take the deal?
- bennesvig 15y agoIf there was a way to do this from Minnesota, I might be interested.
- deleted 15y ago[deleted]
- inty 15y agoThis is really interesting to me, because I too am very interested in something like this but I'm not in a "startup hot spot" like the bay. I'm tempted to just apply for a visa and come down, but I think the OP would be wise in looking at ways to take this idea outside of the usual circles of startups. Also as a sidenote, codecademy, is a great tool for learning code from anywhere in the world. It's not bad, probably not as good as a hands on instructor, but it's certainly a worthwhile endevour to explore if you are really interested in learning how to code.
- palyekar 15y agoThere's One more here, again from Minnesota interested in this course.
- nimblegorilla 15y agoI've been doing rails work in the Twin Cities for 5 years. If either of you are interested in something locally let me know.
- lowglow 15y agoSounds great. I have a previous background in programming, so is there some "accelerated" route I can take?
- kabuks 15y agoA lot of the learning will be self-paced. So not everybody needs to be going at the same speed, and on the same page. I'm designing the program to make sure that if you have programming background, you won't be bored.
- gburt 15y agoI speak fluent PHP but would love to learn RoR. I'm not in the US either though.
- kliao 15y agoSounds interesting. How much is tuition? What are the companies that will reimburse tuition?
- kabuks 15y agoTuition will be 6k paid over 5 years ($100/month) I haven't asked the companies' permission to publicize yet. Sending them emails now, and will get right back to you once I get their ok.
- scarmig 15y agoYou should make clearer: if someone doesn't get hired, who ends up holding the bag? And how large a bag? I'll forward this to someone I know.
- c4urself 15y agosounds great!
- ad80 15y agoGreat initiative! I reckon the demand will boost shortly... Where do you want to get to after 8 weeks? Would the "students" be ready to take junior RoR jobs straight after 8 weeks in your vision OR do you expect it will take longer?
- kabuks 15y agoThanks. The goal is to have people job-ready after 8 weeks. A big part of the program will be focussed on learning how to learn. And students will be learning and building software in an environment very similar to a work environment.
- whimsy 15y agoI have some modest experience. None the less, I'm interested. How much do you hope to teach in eight weeks? What should a Junior Rails Developer be able to do?
- kabuks 15y agoGreat questions. A junior rails developer should have - A good grasp of Ruby - A good grasp of the rails framework - Experience pair programming - An understanding of the Agile Software Development, and Test Driven Development - Basic HTML, CSS, and Javascript skills - Basic git (source control) More importantly, they need to know how to reach out to the ruby community, and have developed the skill of getting stuck and learning their way through the stuckness.
- michaelmcgee0 15y agoI am Mike McGee, the other co-founder of Code Academy (http://codeacademy.org http://codeacademy.org), and this description is pretty much exactly what our students are learning now. Our program is project-based and centered around pair programming with Ruby on Rails as our web framework. It has been amazing to see the progress of our students in the first 8 weeks of the 12-week program. While we may have a different focus and a different business model, if you want to talk to us about our experience it could be helpful in what you are trying to do. You can contact me at mike at codeacademy dot org
- ghurlman 15y agoSo, you're a rails guy that decided to become a recruiter?
- scarmig 15y agoThat's not a fair way of describing him, as he's actively becoming a supplier of new developers, not merely acting as a middleman.
- deleted 15y ago[deleted]
- kabuks 15y agoSort of. I'm a rails guy, who really enjoys being around people. And I'm asking companies to pay me to train devs, instead of find devs.
- ghurlman 15y agoSo a recruiter/trainer. I don't mean that to sound derisive - lord knows we need lots more of both competent developers and recruiters. Good luck to you!
- svmegatron 15y agoThat sounds like an awesome way to carve out a niche. Best of luck to you!
- mayatron 15y agoSounds exciting.
- bgbluesky 15y agoIf you don't have enough peeps yet. I'd be available! Ping me: joo.kno.sam@gmail.com.
- jumar 15y agoI'll take you up on this offer; I'll do it. My contact info is in my profile, if this goes forward.
- parkern 15y agoI'm not in the Bay Area, but would be interested if this if it were online based!
- laurenproctor 15y agoSounds like an interesting approach. I like how you're thinking and I'd make my way there for 8 weeks in a hot second. Would love to hear more.
- kabuks 15y agoThanks. Shoot me an email shereef@gmail.com
- vijayr 15y agoIs there really that much demand for Rails devs, compared to iphone/android etc? (genuine question, not trolling or anything)
- scottschulthess 15y agoin my opinion, yes
- angelbob 15y agoHonestly, it's also slightly easier to train a good junior Rails dev than a good junior iPhone dev, given things like tracking allocated memory. Not sure about Android.
- 2mur 15y agoMaybe not anymore with storyboarding and ARC in iOS5 ;)
- elechi 15y agoIs this a test to see if it's possible to make the programmers companies are looking for instead of just hiring programmers, or a test for your teaching skills?
- kabuks 15y agoIt's an attempt to find 6 people who would take 2 months of their lives to learn Ruby on Rails. If anything is being tested, it's interest in the program.
- md1515 15y agoGreat offer. I can't take you up on it, unfortunately, but that is a great idea!
- kabuks 15y agoThanks. Can you give me some insight into what stands in your way? The time commitment? The tuition? Lack of interest? Just looking for as much feedback as I can get.
- vijayr 15y agoI'd love to do it too, but can't, for two reasons - first, I am in NY, and second, it would not be possible to take that much time off of my day job. If it is web based, or weekends, then I'd be very interested.
- md1515 15y agoI'm non-technical, still finishing up studies, unable to move to SF, etc.
- daimyoyo 15y agoI'm VERY interested in this. Please email me when you have everything set up. Either at my email here or admin at 1every dot com. Thanks. I look forward to seeing you in February.
- andre3k1 15y agoThis. I too am VERY interested. My email is andre at garrigo dot net. Please send me any info that I may need to proceed with this. I already live in SF and work for a tech startup, but I am always interested in learning. I look forward to hearing from you.
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- macho 15y agoJust a doubt...How much does a junior RoR developer make in the Bay Area....If considering the options to start afresh as a jr.developer leaving my existing skillset if my existing skills are completely different from web:)
- wasd 15y agoI am UC Berkeley student studying mathematics. I would do, anything, to be part of this six week session. I have been painstakingly trying to each myself programming spending more than 3 hours every single day outside of my normal schedule just trying to learn more programming. I learn quickly. I am highly focused. I've started a profitable, successful company before. I have a burning desire to learn this.
- kabuks 15y agoGreat! That's all you need. Shoot me an email (in my profile). btw, it's 8 weeks, not six.
- wasd 15y agoT'was a typo. Sending you an email now.
- scarmig 15y agoHave you considered just applying to places? His setup works because people are really, truly desperate for programmers. If you're a Cal math student who's really into programming (even if you just started learning), you have the intellectual chops to do it. You would get training just the same, except you'd be getting paid for it at the same time. I got my first job/internship involving programming with zero (literally 0.00 hours) programming experience. It's quite possible. Of course, there's a lot to recommend learning from a good, dedicated teacher instead of a couple stolen minutes everyday from another developer in a production environment.
- wasd 15y agoActually, that's exactly what I've been doing. I work for a tech company now where I'm honing my skills but the work I've been doing is far more algorithmic rather than development oriented. My goal is really to be a PM and then move to start my own start up. I know exactly what I want to do and how I want to do but getting the skills in another thing. I'm not sure I'm learning fast enough where I'm working because a lot of the work they want me to do is things I already know. Knowing this, what do you think I should do moving forward?
- bravo1 15y agoWell, I am not so sure about a formal course like this. I am on the peninsula learning Ruby and Rails. If anyone would like to meet some time casually send me a message.
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- bigohms 15y agoAre the companies you working with going to actively short the comp of a junior rails dev hired through this program (treating the 6K as a training incentive) or will graduates theoretically get market rates (treating the 6K as a hiring/headhunting bonus)?
- kabuks 15y agoGreat question. I would sincerely hope it's the latter. Companies pay up to 25% of first year salary to head hunters (or as a referral bonus), that's the budget we are after. But you raise a very good point. We need to spell that out. Not sure how to enforce it though. Any ideas?
- hammock 15y agoSelf-enforcing, assuming you have assembled a decent list of companies you are recruiting for. You have created Joe, a new valuable job candidate, and if there was just one company looking for a guy like Joe, then they would make him eat the cost of tuition (reduce his comp), but since he is a great guy that five or six companies are competing for, the offers they each give him have to be competitive.
- bigohms 15y agoTreat and frame it like a recruiter payout but only 10% or less. Going with a model they're familiar with will reduce the friction. Great hires are never docked for recruiter fees.
- helen842000 15y agoI'm another interested participant however I'm not in the US. If anyone would consider a similar arrangement suitable for remote participants I'd take them up on the offer. I think this would have huge demand. Personally I don't mind if it was RoR or Python - whatever. Having someone experienced to answer my questions would make for greatly accelerated learning. If anyone has an interest in putting something similar together please mail me. I'm my username on gmail.com
- programzeta 15y agoI'm definitely interested in this opportunity - my e-mail address in my profile.
- jt11508 15y agoVery interesting approach, hope you post a follow-up to this experiment.
- CEtch 15y agoThis sounds pretty awesome! I'm already a junior .Net mvc developer, but I'm learning Rails to build my new startup. I would be interested in attending/helping.
- doktrin 15y agoThis sounds like an amazing opportunity. If it were even remotely feasible, I'd consider relocating from DC just for this class.
- Jeng 15y agoI would jump at the chance if it was available in Austin. How many hours a day?
- kabuks 15y agoThe program is 5 days a week, 8 hours a day. Why not come the bay for a couple of months?
- ntulip 15y agoThis is awesome. Too bad I am on the east coast. Can you maybe video tape the whole thing and make each day available online?
- wallawe 15y agoI would be willing to pay for something like this.
- cantbecool 15y agoEven though I know I know a bit of Ruby and Rails, I'd love to take your course. Unfortunately, I live in Philadelphia, and I've been looking for Junior Rails Developer job for the past 5 months and haven't even got offered an interview. I'm considering putting on my resume willing to work for peanuts, because I'm passionate about working in a startup environment.
- wiscoDude 15y agoI discussed this very idea with @bendycode this past summer. Kudos to you kicking it off and best of luck! Here are some things we discussed are important for RoR devs to know. ymmv. Effective pairing skills Mastery of the CLI Experience deploying to Heroku & non-heroku hosts Git knowledge Spec tests Feature tests Haml/SASS Ajax UX/Jquery Configuration Management Twitter Oauth Twitter API Facebook Oauth Devise & User login/sessions File uploads and S3 storage DelayedJob Cron tasks Pagination Caching Search Index (eg: Solr, Sphinx, etc) API consumption API creation/support
- kabuks 15y agoGreat list! If you get a chance, I would love to connect and hear more about you guys have thought about. Maybe we can work together.
- swalkergibson 15y agoI personally would refrain from getting too far into Haml/SASS without first creating a significant understanding of the underlying HTML and CSS. While these tools are certainly effective, it seems like it would be foolhardy to not start from the ground up as there are more projects built with straight HTML/CSS. Especially given that a junior developer is likely to be maintaining existing projects, not necessarily rolling your own.
- thedangler 15y agoCan you stream your teaching or record and post it later?
- axelav 15y agovery cool idea. anyone considered doing this on the east coast?
- pitdesi 15y agoThis is an interesting business model. I like it, but am interested to see how you will commit people to paying you $100/month for the next 5 years unless structuring it as a loan (which has it's own headaches) For those interested in something similar, my understanding is that Code Academy (Different than YC startup codecademy) http://codeacademy.org http://codeacademy.org in Chicago is phenomenal. I met a bunch of their students at the HN meetup in Chicago last week and they were raving about it. From what I understand, the 35 folks in their current batch are going to have multiple job offers, and DHH is a huge supporter, so much so that he's taught a class.
- coreyhaines 15y agoWith the rise and popularity of 'teach to code' services, it remains to be seen which model works best. Taking a person from 0 (or very, very little) knowledge and experience to the point where they can be at all effective as a software developer is difficult. Expecting a matter of weeks to turn someone such as this into hireable material is a dangerous attitude to have. I'm very curious to see the graduates of these courses and even more curious to see how their skills are represented to possible hiring companies.
- nealsales 15y agoIt's all about what the needs and expectations of the individual is - and properly setting them. As one of the founders of http://codeacademy.org http://codeacademy.org I can say first-hand that it is possible to get people to a point where they are happy with their progress. But rather than asserting - our students' own perspectives is the actual evidence: http://codeacademy.org/culture http://codeacademy.org/culture If anyone would like to know more about our experience starting and running this program - I'd love to help you however I can. It's great that there are so many people getting passionate about the issue of educating more people on how to solve problems through software. Drop me a line at neal at codeacademy dot org.
- ZenBrent 15y agoLove codecademy Neal. Just finished the initial rollout of the tool and can't wait for the next programs.
- viggity 15y agothis is a brilliant idea, kudos to you
- fabrygio 15y agoSorry, just out of curiosity how much (in average) a Junior Rail Developer can make in San Francisco or in New York. Thanks
- kabuks 15y agoDepends on many factors. US-wide it's 75k on average. In SF and NY quite a bit higher. http://www.simplyhired.com/a/salary/search/q-junior+ruby+on+rails+developer/l-San+Francisco%2C+CA http://www.simplyhired.com/a/salary/search/q-junior+ruby+on+... http://www.indeed.com/salary/q-Ruby-On-Rails-Web-Developer-l-San-Francisco-Bay-Area,-CA.html http://www.indeed.com/salary/q-Ruby-On-Rails-Web-Developer-l... http://www.quora.com/Ruby-on-Rails/What-is-the-salary-range-for-a-junior-Rails-developer-not-located-in-NYC-or-SF http://www.quora.com/Ruby-on-Rails/What-is-the-salary-range-...
- dmragone 15y agoThis sounds great, and exactly what I'm looking for. I'm currently in the Bay Area doing analytics at a services company and want to transition more into tech. I started teaching myself Python a few weeks ago, but would love a crash course in Ruby. If there's still room, I'd love to be in this. I'll email you my contact info.
- rudeegraap 15y agoCan I pay you to attend?
- kabuks 15y agoSure. shereef@gmail.com
- dkokelley 15y agoIt seems that there is significant interest in what you are offering. How do you plan on selecting the six students (apprentices)? I think the real value in what you are proposing is in the pathway to a job. In fact, I would like to possibly take you up on this offer. I've done some Ruby, Python, and server admin stuff, but not enough to make me "employable" by my standards. I'm currently in grad school, and I would be taking a semester off (which I am fine with) if I took your offer. When more details become available please contact me. My information is in my profile.
- dmragone 15y agoWould love to hear about selection criteria - it does seem that you have generated quite a bit of interest.
- juaninfinitelop 15y agoIs it really possible to pick up RoR in 8 weeks to be useful to a company? How is what you're offering any different than this site: http://teamtreehouse.com/ http://teamtreehouse.com/ Super honest question, I'm fairly new to the web dev world.
- coreyhaines 15y agoWith hands-on, 5 days a week, many hours a day, intense one-on-one mentoring, I'm still skeptical.
- juaninfinitelop 15y agoThe main reason I asked, and why I'm a little skeptical, is I see a lot of places (in the Los Angeles area) that require additional knowledge in a myriad of other technologies; MySql, JavaScript, Html etc. along with Ruby/Rails or Python/Django. I apologize for sounding brash, but this sounds a little too good to be true, almost DeVry ITtech ish...
- corroded 15y agoIMHO, he did say you'll be passable as a junior dev(depends on the person's potential i guess). I think that this would be enough for most companies, especially if they think you have great potential and can grow/learn exponentially(like be a senior in 6 or less months) There are some projects that don't need senior devs THAT much, like basic CRUD apps, etc. And you'll be "continuing" your studies under the company's mentors/senior devs. So yes, I think 8 weeks of studying RoR can make someone useful to a company. Not all, but probably one that needs juniors
- eLobato 15y agoJust wondering, what's your experience besides Classparrot? It's great but I'd like to see more before getting in a bigger commitment.
- kabuks 15y agoOfcourse. I built http://bettermeans.com http://bettermeans.com Worked for MS for 4 years as lead dev. Taught workshops in high schools around the country for 4 years. I also really enjoy public speaking: http://tedxtalks.ted.com/video/TEDxSF-Shereef-Bishay-Open-Ente http://tedxtalks.ted.com/video/TEDxSF-Shereef-Bishay-Open-En...
- zallarak 15y agoThis is awesome. I'd take you up on this. I've worked at a YC startup as a first non-tech employee and have self taught myself a good amount of Python/Django/HTML/CSS. If there's any add'tl info you need to make your decision, feel free to contact. Email is zain.allarakhia@gmail.com
- joebadmo 15y agoSounds like an amazing opportunity! If you were in Portland, I'd seriously consider quitting my job to dive in. I'm a non-programmer slowly trying to teach myself in my off time, but it's slow, lonely, hard-to-stay-motivated going. I've contacted a few local web dev companies to try to come in as an unpaid intern to at least try to get into a more conducive environment, but haven't had much luck. Please keep us updated on how this goes! And if anyone knows of a similar opportunity in Portland, I'd love to hear about it.
- petermarks 15y agoRegarding learning Ruby in Portland, make it out to a PDX Ruby Brigade meeting if you haven't already. They have meetings focused on learning Ruby: http://calagator.org/events/1250461371 http://calagator.org/events/1250461371
- joebadmo 15y agoI have no preference for Ruby in particular (I've been learning Python), but that definitely looks like it's worth checking out. Thanks!
- moe 15y agoSorry, I'm sure you have the best intentions but it's not possible to go in 8 weeks from "no computer science background required" to a rails junior.
- moe 15y agoI'd be curious to hear the rationale behind my downvote. Is anyone seriously suggesting you can turn a programming illiterate into a rails hire in 8 weeks?
- sosayweall 15y agoIt's very subjective to talk about what a "rails junior" means, but it is very possible for someone (like the students at Code Academy) to learn an immense amount of programming knowledge in a short amount of time (say 12 weeks).
- mattdeboard 15y agoNot true at all. I went from "no computer science background" to a Django junior hire in ~10 weeks of (admittedly quite intense) self-study. I'm now employed as a mid-level programmer making very good money. My anecdote is about as valid a characterization of whether it's possible in general as your sweeping, baseless generalization.
- mattdeboard 15y agoI got a relative lot of email on this (given that I normally get zero mail it was a landslide) so I blogged responses to the questions I got. http://mattdeboard.net/2011/11/23/how-i-became-a-programmer/ http://mattdeboard.net/2011/11/23/how-i-became-a-programmer/
- smileycynic 15y agoI'm interested! How many/what hours/day would this be, and when would it start? -Shannon shannon at starrynightcoaching dot com.
- smileycynic 15y agoI'm interested! How many/what hours/day would this be, and when would it start? -Shannon shannon at starrynightcoaching dot com.
- mcs 15y agoTeaching somebody how to set up a rails app with some basic routes and implementing some ajax calls and stuff, sure. Will they know what's going on under the hood though? Taking somebody from ground zero and teaching them enough to be able to debug problems that the hires would need to know in order to be proficient, self starting engineers.. I'm really skeptical about that being done in 8 weeks. Most of the little tricks and crap I've learned over the years have been through trial and error, and working on many different projects. More specific examples: for loops not creating scope in javascript and asynchronous calls introducing race conditions due to not understanding them. Those aren't things that are in curriculums, though when trying to build some features most people will encounter them.
- sosayweall 15y agoI have had the chance to visit the classes at Code Academy in Chicago, I can say that these students are learning way more than I ever expected. No they will not be software craftsman in 12 weeks, but they will know how to take their own idea and make it into a Rails app. Pretty powerful stuff for not knowing how code on Day 1. "Most of the little tricks and crap I've learned over the years have been through trial and error, and working on many different projects." This quote represents what the students are learning at Code Academy - (http://codeacademy.org http://codeacademy.org)
- hotspur 15y agoThis is a legitimate niche just begging to be filled. Consider me very interested - based in NY but certainly willing and able to go out the Bay Area. My contact info is in my profile, and I'll email you.
- allenwong 15y agomuch cool!
- kamikazi 15y agoI'm in India. And very interested. (Of-course I can't get a visa just for this). Are you making any kind of off-line arrangement for those who can't physically attend but still want in on a self-paced learning program? Count me in if you do. I think you can have even greater success from this if you carve out/expand this out of the usual valley-startup circles. There is a lot of pent-up demand for great developers and robust continuous demand good teaching programs out here. I might be even interested in collaborating/partnering if you wish.(gratis/paid depending on level of involvement). Have you thought on these lines?
- blario 15y agoIs demand for Rails developers this high? There's this much of a shortage that there's no available talent to employ? This much of a shortage to add a $6,0000 premium on top of a brand new developer?
- mapster 15y agoA lot of ambitious and hungry people ready to take Kabuks up on his deal. And a lot of hackers skeptical of the results. Will he pull it off? Will those code hungry bootstrappers make the commute, make the grade and get paid? Kabuks, please keep HN in the loop on how this unfolds.
- kabuks 15y agoI definitely will. Thanks for framing it as a challenge :) Keeps me motivated. In truth though, I feel like the response here has been super helpful and encouraging. And the skepticism healthy and respectful. I really appreciate it.
- mapster 15y agoYour Ted talk was a lot of fun. You seem like a great teacher. I envy those who can learn programming from you. Wishing you success!
- shahedkhan30 15y agoI love this model, and I wish more and more people start doing this. This would increase more jobs, but more developers. Which company wouldn't want to pay you to teach people to become experts in Rails from scratch. Please email me: shahed@viatask.com Thanks, Shahed
- jhacks 15y agoI'd probably do this if it were in NY.
- textech 15y agoAnyway you can do it online? I'm here in north Texas and very interested.
- craiglittle 15y agoThis sounds awesome. I'm interested, in the Bay Area, and ready to quit my job, if necessary, to make it happen. I shot you an email this afternoon. Any idea when you'll decide if you're going to move forward?
- wcdolphin 15y agoBeing a web developer takes more than simply 'knowing RoR'. Developing is less about the code and more about the solutions you express through your code, as I am sure you know.
- br41n 15y agoIf only i'd be in US :| Do you think you could find a way for people outside Bay Area too? Sincerely i would pay (not really 6k though) for something similar.
- danneu 15y agoI graduate from Texas this semester, but I'm not interested in the large Gantt chart consultancy firms and generic "business analyst" positions that roll through the business school recruiting system. I've been teaching myself Linux/Ruby/Rails for a while, but I've had to scavenge time between school and work. I can make a basic forum in Rails, I know basic Git (have a Github), I've become comfortable in Linux, and I can deploy in Heroku/Linode box. But I never had a mentor. After I graduate this month, I'd easily move to the Bay Area for this (or a job). But I suppose I might be too "advanced" for the offer.
- swalkergibson 15y agoIt does not seem to me that way at all. In fact, I think that you are exactly the type of person that this program is perfect for. Honing your skills from where you are is going to be loads easier than starting from scratch. Having a rudimentary understanding of programming in this environment can only help you.
- jvanderwal 15y agoI'm very interested. One question: Do you have some place to put people up in, or would we be responsible for lodging, food, etc?
- MrSlovenian 15y agoI'm 35 years old, married with 4 kids, in the middle of a career change, and teaching myself programming. If this, or anything like Code Academy, were available in the Indianapolis area, I'd be ALL over it. I have a Master's degree in another discipline, I learn fast, and am very motivated, looking to put my creativity and drive towards doing good in the world through programming. If there was an option for doing something online, I'd consider that as well.
- ajaymehta 15y agoSounds awesome. I wish you luck, please keep me in the loop! (email in profile)
- Blocks8 15y agoMaybe HR departments should become 'teach to code' classrooms. The head-hunter fee would be a comparable sum for an 8 week class.
- kellyreid 15y agoI think I wish I lived in the Bay Area.
- KleinmanB 15y agoDo it in LA
- tryitnow 15y agoGreat idea. We need a lot more people like you. I am assuming (and hoping) this is just a trial run for bigger and better things you have planned. There's definitely a need for this. You're the solution to our unemployment problem. Best of luck.
- ApolloRising 15y agoThis may be something you could perhaps use a video broadcasting service and see how much reach you can get.
- kabuks 15y agoFolks, thanks for the great response. I just put up a site explaining the process and containing the details of the training, and an application form http://devbootcamp.com http://devbootcamp.com
- Heated 15y agoI shall join you and learn what you have to teach me! Give me the dates, times, and place you will be teaching immediately!
- shahedkhan30 15y agoI just created a blog post briefly describing why we need more developers, and how we can overcome that: http://shahedkhan.org/?p=8 http://shahedkhan.org/?p=8
- kunwar_isro 15y agonice busuness
- gsivil 15y agoWhat are all these green accounts that seem to be so excited about the "Code Academy"? This is getting suspicious
- probitymike 15y agoI think they are students of the program who just got on Hacker News. They are baby programmers trying to get into the community, let them grow! They can also be a little feisty and protective.