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Why do so many of these video editing products try to be web-only? A browser/"the cloud" is the last place I want to be if I'm wrangling 400GB prores blobs... I

by wyager 4y ago

Why do so many of these video editing products try to be web-only? A browser/"the cloud" is the last place I want to be if I'm wrangling 400GB prores blobs... I'm surprised the upside of locking their customers into using company hardware (excuse me, "the cloud") outweighs the inevitable shittiness of having to upload massive video files and try to wrangle them in a web browser which inevitably can't handle high-quality video.

dylan604 4y ago
you're clearly not the target audience, but I feel exactly the same way. but, i'm old skool. if you're the type to have a bunch of highly compressed MP4 files as source recorded with a profile that allows for post color correction, I could see where storing these small footprint filesizes live in a shared/common bucket. Maybe content creators shooting on their mobile devices would be a target who are already using a cloud provider to store the content. i just hate acquiring footage in any format that would be accepted in an MP4, so this would never appeal to me.
turnsout 4y ago
Maybe the idea is you can upload one or two example shots to develop a look for use in another tool (via an exported LUT)? It’s hard to imagine uploading enough raw footage to grade anything longer than a commercial… I developed a WebGL powered CC tool which centered around LUTs about 5 years ago, and this is the reason I abandoned it. No one is asking for this workflow.
- DoctorOW 4y ago
  Also LUT has its limitations... namely I use masks and vignetting all the time. Sure I could add this in my other tools but I can also color correct just fine without an AI 'assisting' me.
esperent 4y ago
I find myself needing to do some video editing maybe ten times a year - mostly for using videos as textures in 3d graphics but also small marketing clips. Usually just trimming, resizing, or clipping so I use ffmpeg. But anytime I need to do more I find myself searching for easy to learn, easily accessible video editing apps and I'm always disappointed. One thing I do sometimes need to do is switch color spaces or do other color correction on a clip. So it sounds like this is perfect for me. It's not for video editing professionals. It's for the much larger community of people who need to do occasional video editing. If it's on the web that's a bonus actually because I don't have to worry about installing or what platform I'm using it on. Obviously the tradeoff is you're gonna have trouble with multi-gigabyte raw footage. But that's a perfectly acceptable tradeoff.
kazinator 4y ago
They probably have a way to deploy it to you locally if you have 400GB blobs and money.

by wyager 4y ago

dylan604 4y ago

you're clearly not the target audience, but I feel exactly the same way. but, i'm old skool. if you're the type to have a bunch of highly compressed MP4 files as source recorded with a profile that allows for post color correction, I could see where storing these small footprint filesizes live in a shared/common bucket. Maybe content creators shooting on their mobile devices would be a target who are already using a cloud provider to store the content. i just hate acquiring footage in any format that would be accepted in an MP4, so this would never appeal to me.

turnsout 4y ago

Maybe the idea is you can upload one or two example shots to develop a look for use in another tool (via an exported LUT)? It’s hard to imagine uploading enough raw footage to grade anything longer than a commercial… I developed a WebGL powered CC tool which centered around LUTs about 5 years ago, and this is the reason I abandoned it. No one is asking for this workflow.

DoctorOW 4y ago
Also LUT has its limitations... namely I use masks and vignetting all the time. Sure I could add this in my other tools but I can also color correct just fine without an AI 'assisting' me.

esperent 4y ago

I find myself needing to do some video editing maybe ten times a year - mostly for using videos as textures in 3d graphics but also small marketing clips. Usually just trimming, resizing, or clipping so I use ffmpeg. But anytime I need to do more I find myself searching for easy to learn, easily accessible video editing apps and I'm always disappointed. One thing I do sometimes need to do is switch color spaces or do other color correction on a clip. So it sounds like this is perfect for me. It's not for video editing professionals. It's for the much larger community of people who need to do occasional video editing. If it's on the web that's a bonus actually because I don't have to worry about installing or what platform I'm using it on. Obviously the tradeoff is you're gonna have trouble with multi-gigabyte raw footage. But that's a perfectly acceptable tradeoff.

kazinator 4y ago

They probably have a way to deploy it to you locally if you have 400GB blobs and money.