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>Healthcare systems can only do so much to compensate for a bad lifestyle. And this right here is my problem. Healthcare doesn't only begin when you get to the

>Healthcare systems can only do so much to compensate for a bad lifestyle. And this right here is my problem. Healthcare doesn't only begin when you get to the doctor or the hospital. There's no reason that healthcare officials/leaders/experts/whatever can't recommend baseline levels of fitness for Americans, and provide help for getting to that standard. I don't know, maybe Healthcare plans should include subsidies for gym memberships by law.

j-bos 4y ago
This would be a beautiful dream
barbazoo 4y ago
Imagine what half the population would say if an expert or an authority started telling people to walk more, eat less and eat better.
kredd 4y ago
From what I’ve observed, even with free gym and advice, most of people will still ignore it. It’s simply not convenient, especially for people who haven’t gotten into a routine. I live in an extremely walkable neighbourhood of a fairly dense city, and honestly speaking, and just walking around to do my daily chores already helps with casual fitness. I do bike, swim and lift, but mostly for “fun” rather than for health. And before consistently working out, I weighed constant amount (+-4 pounds change depended on the season). Honestly, I want to blame the epidemic on cars and the convenience it brings to everyone.
- remarkEon 4y ago
  I agree, and that was a glib suggestion of mine. It's a combination of cultural proclivities and the infrastructure. I was in the military, so I lift weights basically every day and either swim or run on the days I don't ... but that's because I've just had fitness culture inculcated in my mind since I was 18. I don't live in a city where I have to walk everywhere to get everything. But my fitness preferences do make me vote in certain ways (for candidates that encourage more public transit, bike lanes, and so on). Politics is downstream from culture, I suppose?
- tomp 4y ago
  > From what I’ve observed, even with free gym and advice, most of people will still ignore it. It’s simply not convenient, especially for people who haven’t gotten into a routine. Maybe we should consider stronger incentives. Such as “exercise passports”, you can’t enter public spaces unless you did 30 minutes of exercise that day. Would solve the problem very quickly. Or obesity tax is another practical idea.
AlchemistCamp 4y ago
> I don't know, maybe Healthcare plans should include subsidies for gym memberships by law. I can only imagine the level of added bureaucracy , certifications for gyms to qualify, and spiraling prices for gym users without healthcare plans through white collar salaried jobs. Just look at health care costs over the past 50 years as lengthier and lengthier laws have been passed in the hopes of shifting incentives and otherwise tweaking the system.

j-bos 4y ago

This would be a beautiful dream

barbazoo 4y ago

Imagine what half the population would say if an expert or an authority started telling people to walk more, eat less and eat better.

kredd 4y ago

From what I’ve observed, even with free gym and advice, most of people will still ignore it. It’s simply not convenient, especially for people who haven’t gotten into a routine. I live in an extremely walkable neighbourhood of a fairly dense city, and honestly speaking, and just walking around to do my daily chores already helps with casual fitness. I do bike, swim and lift, but mostly for “fun” rather than for health. And before consistently working out, I weighed constant amount (+-4 pounds change depended on the season). Honestly, I want to blame the epidemic on cars and the convenience it brings to everyone.

remarkEon 4y ago
I agree, and that was a glib suggestion of mine. It's a combination of cultural proclivities and the infrastructure. I was in the military, so I lift weights basically every day and either swim or run on the days I don't ... but that's because I've just had fitness culture inculcated in my mind since I was 18. I don't live in a city where I have to walk everywhere to get everything. But my fitness preferences do make me vote in certain ways (for candidates that encourage more public transit, bike lanes, and so on). Politics is downstream from culture, I suppose?
tomp 4y ago
> From what I’ve observed, even with free gym and advice, most of people will still ignore it. It’s simply not convenient, especially for people who haven’t gotten into a routine. Maybe we should consider stronger incentives. Such as “exercise passports”, you can’t enter public spaces unless you did 30 minutes of exercise that day. Would solve the problem very quickly. Or obesity tax is another practical idea.

AlchemistCamp 4y ago

> I don't know, maybe Healthcare plans should include subsidies for gym memberships by law. I can only imagine the level of added bureaucracy , certifications for gyms to qualify, and spiraling prices for gym users without healthcare plans through white collar salaried jobs. Just look at health care costs over the past 50 years as lengthier and lengthier laws have been passed in the hopes of shifting incentives and otherwise tweaking the system.