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Did anybody ever die unexpectedly before 2019?

nigrioid 4y ago
Look into it. There are an awful lot of young athletes in peak physical condition that have collapsed on the field. A large number of Canadian doctors also died suddenly and unexpectedly.
- peter422 4y ago
  An awful lot of young athletes collapsed on the field prior to 2019 as well. Look into it. I’ve sadly witnessed it happen before.
  - nigrioid 4y ago
    Climate Change is changing babies in the womb. They are more susceptible to heart disease.
- thedorkknight 4y ago
  Do we have hard data on the rate of sudden deaths? Otherwise it seems like there is a high chance of confirmation bias
dukeofdoom 4y ago
Apparently not at the same rate. In the UK, ages 1-59 year olds are dying at almost twice the rate if vaccinated than not. The forth chart from the top "ages 10-59" https://www.covid-datascience.com/post/what-do-uk-data-say-about-real-world-impact-of-vaccines-on-all-cause-deaths https://www.covid-datascience.com/post/what-do-uk-data-say-a... This site is very pro vaccine, but even here they have to do a lot of hand waving to try and explain it away. And Suddenly everything is fuzzy, they can't quite put the two together. Which is almost funny considering these same people were touting the effectiveness of the vaccine on cherry picked statistical data with utmost certainty. APPENDIX 1. LIST OF ADVERSE EVENTS OF SPECIAL INTEREST from the pfizers own study. http://supremelaw.org/authors/pfizer/1290.adverse.events.htm http://supremelaw.org/authors/pfizer/1290.adverse.events.htm Here's another one, young person, story from today. https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/kitchener-waterloo/ayr-centennials-hockey-player-dies-1.6568113 https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/kitchener-waterloo/ayr-centen... [Edit] Corrected the link https://www.covid-datascience.com/post/what-do-uk-data-say-about-real-world-impact-of-vaccines-on-all-cause-deaths https://www.covid-datascience.com/post/what-do-uk-data-say-a...
- eob 4y ago
  Where are you seeing your UK claim in the first link? Those look like US - not UK - graphs, showing the trends in the opposite direction.
- peter422 4y ago
  So you are telling me somebody thought it was a good idea to bucket 10 year olds with 59 year olds in a study regarding health outcomes. Can you think of any confounding issues among those samples when split only by vaccination status? Like maybe the median age or percent with AARP memberships?
- Entinel 4y ago
  I don't see what that link about that kid has to do with your point? They don't even mention cause of death.
- C4stor 4y ago
  Here's a conclusion that you can also take from the same article : "In the UK, ages 1-59 year olds are dying at almost eight time the rate if they don't have any baby tooth left and don't absurdly love dinosaurs". The fact that people have to actually write the whole data analysis down is mind boggling, because it's so trivial to understand the reason. Still, this is the conclusion : "Thus, the results we see in the actual UK all-cause deaths for fully vaccinated and unvaccinated is not unexpected, and can be fully explained by the Simpson's paradox artifact since the observed ratio of vaccinated:unvaccinated all cause death rates, 1.82x in week 30, is less than the expected background ratio of 2.41x based on their disparate age distributions." That's not "a lot of hand waving to try and explain it away". They do a very methodical and sensible mathematical analysis of the data at hand, including the initial data point, to explain a very simple thing : people tend to die older overall, and older dying people tend to vaccinate more.

Look into it. There are an awful lot of young athletes in peak physical condition that have collapsed on the field. A large number of Canadian doctors also died suddenly and unexpectedly.

peter422 4y ago
An awful lot of young athletes collapsed on the field prior to 2019 as well. Look into it. I’ve sadly witnessed it happen before.
- nigrioid 4y ago
  Climate Change is changing babies in the womb. They are more susceptible to heart disease.
thedorkknight 4y ago
Do we have hard data on the rate of sudden deaths? Otherwise it seems like there is a high chance of confirmation bias

dukeofdoom 4y ago

Apparently not at the same rate. In the UK, ages 1-59 year olds are dying at almost twice the rate if vaccinated than not. The forth chart from the top "ages 10-59" https://www.covid-datascience.com/post/what-do-uk-data-say-about-real-world-impact-of-vaccines-on-all-cause-deaths https://www.covid-datascience.com/post/what-do-uk-data-say-a... This site is very pro vaccine, but even here they have to do a lot of hand waving to try and explain it away. And Suddenly everything is fuzzy, they can't quite put the two together. Which is almost funny considering these same people were touting the effectiveness of the vaccine on cherry picked statistical data with utmost certainty. APPENDIX 1. LIST OF ADVERSE EVENTS OF SPECIAL INTEREST from the pfizers own study. http://supremelaw.org/authors/pfizer/1290.adverse.events.htm http://supremelaw.org/authors/pfizer/1290.adverse.events.htm Here's another one, young person, story from today. https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/kitchener-waterloo/ayr-centennials-hockey-player-dies-1.6568113 https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/kitchener-waterloo/ayr-centen... [Edit] Corrected the link https://www.covid-datascience.com/post/what-do-uk-data-say-about-real-world-impact-of-vaccines-on-all-cause-deaths https://www.covid-datascience.com/post/what-do-uk-data-say-a...

eob 4y ago
Where are you seeing your UK claim in the first link? Those look like US - not UK - graphs, showing the trends in the opposite direction.
peter422 4y ago
So you are telling me somebody thought it was a good idea to bucket 10 year olds with 59 year olds in a study regarding health outcomes. Can you think of any confounding issues among those samples when split only by vaccination status? Like maybe the median age or percent with AARP memberships?
Entinel 4y ago
I don't see what that link about that kid has to do with your point? They don't even mention cause of death.
C4stor 4y ago
Here's a conclusion that you can also take from the same article : "In the UK, ages 1-59 year olds are dying at almost eight time the rate if they don't have any baby tooth left and don't absurdly love dinosaurs". The fact that people have to actually write the whole data analysis down is mind boggling, because it's so trivial to understand the reason. Still, this is the conclusion : "Thus, the results we see in the actual UK all-cause deaths for fully vaccinated and unvaccinated is not unexpected, and can be fully explained by the Simpson's paradox artifact since the observed ratio of vaccinated:unvaccinated all cause death rates, 1.82x in week 30, is less than the expected background ratio of 2.41x based on their disparate age distributions." That's not "a lot of hand waving to try and explain it away". They do a very methodical and sensible mathematical analysis of the data at hand, including the initial data point, to explain a very simple thing : people tend to die older overall, and older dying people tend to vaccinate more.