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> You have to be unhealthy to the extent that it probably isn’t safe for you to live alone and walking across a room is an accomplishment. Citation needed.

by kixiQu 4y ago

colechristensen 4y ago
Your own citation, 700 deaths annually out of a country of just under 330 million. If only ~2 in a million die of heat or heat contributed causes per year, either people without air conditioning are incredibly rare (they’re not) or there have to be fairly extreme circumstances to risk death. Do you really need more evidence or are you just being obtuse? Do you actually think healthy or even most unhealthy adults are risking death without AC in any but the most extreme circumstances?
- kixiQu 4y ago
  If you have formed the opinion that it's not warranted to omit the scorn when you talk about people using AC, or to learn more about how it might be warranted, then that's pretty much that. If anyone else has clicked into the thread for whatever reason and wants to learn, here are resources I'd recommend. US-centric, sorry. * https://health2016.globalchange.gov/low/ClimateHealth2016_02_Temperature_small.pdf https://health2016.globalchange.gov/low/ClimateHealth2016_02... - connects with climate change projections, talks a bit about how even sub-"extreme" heat conditions can lead to health issues * https://www.cdc.gov/nceh/tracking/topics/Heat.htm https://www.cdc.gov/nceh/tracking/topics/Heat.htm - pretty cool data resources * https://www.cdc.gov/climateandhealth/docs/UseOfCoolingCenters.pdf https://www.cdc.gov/climateandhealth/docs/UseOfCoolingCenter... - esp. in places like AZ where the need is really really clear, "cooling centers" are becoming a thing. * https://www.nationalpartnership.org/our-work/resources/health-care/higher-temperatures-hurt-moms-and-babies.pdf https://www.nationalpartnership.org/our-work/resources/healt... - Heat and pregnancy go together really badly. This piece is kind of lobbying, so less reputable than the CDC stuff, but aggregates some pretty eye-popping statistics; citations on page 5. * https://ehp.niehs.nih.gov/doi/full/10.1289/EHP6221 https://ehp.niehs.nih.gov/doi/full/10.1289/EHP6221 - preterm births, low birth weights, heart defects – bleak stuff. * https://www.acf.hhs.gov/ocs/policy-guidance/liheap-im-2022-06-heat-stress-flexibilities-and-resources-fy2022 https://www.acf.hhs.gov/ocs/policy-guidance/liheap-im-2022-0... - the programs that used to mainly just help low-income households afford energy bills are being directed to help afford AC equipment/installation as well. If you know someone who needs this help, start at https://liheapch.acf.hhs.gov/search-tool/ https://liheapch.acf.hhs.gov/search-tool/ * https://www.cdc.gov/niosh/topics/heatstress/acclima.html https://www.cdc.gov/niosh/topics/heatstress/acclima.html - NIOSH has some useful recommendations about how to acclimatize to heat safely. ("acclimatize" being the individual body ramping up its ability to deal with heat – interestingly, when people in this field use the word "adapt", increasing AC penetration is one of the things that goes into that)

> You have to be unhealthy to the extent that it probably isn’t safe for you to live alone and walking across a room is an accomplishment. Citation needed.

by kixiQu 4y ago

> You have to be unhealthy to the extent that it probably isn’t safe for you to live alone and walking across a room is an accomplishment. Citation needed.

colechristensen 4y ago

Your own citation, 700 deaths annually out of a country of just under 330 million. If only ~2 in a million die of heat or heat contributed causes per year, either people without air conditioning are incredibly rare (they’re not) or there have to be fairly extreme circumstances to risk death. Do you really need more evidence or are you just being obtuse? Do you actually think healthy or even most unhealthy adults are risking death without AC in any but the most extreme circumstances?

kixiQu 4y ago
If you have formed the opinion that it's not warranted to omit the scorn when you talk about people using AC, or to learn more about how it might be warranted, then that's pretty much that. If anyone else has clicked into the thread for whatever reason and wants to learn, here are resources I'd recommend. US-centric, sorry. * https://health2016.globalchange.gov/low/ClimateHealth2016_02_Temperature_small.pdf https://health2016.globalchange.gov/low/ClimateHealth2016_02... - connects with climate change projections, talks a bit about how even sub-"extreme" heat conditions can lead to health issues * https://www.cdc.gov/nceh/tracking/topics/Heat.htm https://www.cdc.gov/nceh/tracking/topics/Heat.htm - pretty cool data resources * https://www.cdc.gov/climateandhealth/docs/UseOfCoolingCenters.pdf https://www.cdc.gov/climateandhealth/docs/UseOfCoolingCenter... - esp. in places like AZ where the need is really really clear, "cooling centers" are becoming a thing. * https://www.nationalpartnership.org/our-work/resources/health-care/higher-temperatures-hurt-moms-and-babies.pdf https://www.nationalpartnership.org/our-work/resources/healt... - Heat and pregnancy go together really badly. This piece is kind of lobbying, so less reputable than the CDC stuff, but aggregates some pretty eye-popping statistics; citations on page 5. * https://ehp.niehs.nih.gov/doi/full/10.1289/EHP6221 https://ehp.niehs.nih.gov/doi/full/10.1289/EHP6221 - preterm births, low birth weights, heart defects – bleak stuff. * https://www.acf.hhs.gov/ocs/policy-guidance/liheap-im-2022-06-heat-stress-flexibilities-and-resources-fy2022 https://www.acf.hhs.gov/ocs/policy-guidance/liheap-im-2022-0... - the programs that used to mainly just help low-income households afford energy bills are being directed to help afford AC equipment/installation as well. If you know someone who needs this help, start at https://liheapch.acf.hhs.gov/search-tool/ https://liheapch.acf.hhs.gov/search-tool/ * https://www.cdc.gov/niosh/topics/heatstress/acclima.html https://www.cdc.gov/niosh/topics/heatstress/acclima.html - NIOSH has some useful recommendations about how to acclimatize to heat safely. ("acclimatize" being the individual body ramping up its ability to deal with heat – interestingly, when people in this field use the word "adapt", increasing AC penetration is one of the things that goes into that)