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Yeah, I mean squeeze people a bit and they will resent their masters, squeeze them even more and they will band together for protection against them, squeeze th
by kelseyfrog 4y ago
Yeah, I mean squeeze people a bit and they will resent their masters, squeeze them even more and they will band together for protection against them, squeeze them enough and they'll revolt. We should be happy we're at step two and not step three. Until then, the inherent tension between who has the labor and who pays the labor is resolved, each will orbit the other looking for a hole in their armor.
- ETH_start 4y ago[flagged]
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- kelseyfrog 4y agoSorry, not really making the connection. Care to explain?
- ETH_start 4y agoIn the off-chance that you're being sincere in your bufuddlement: this is a classic Marxist class-warfare narrative framing workers as exploited victims and vilifying employers as exploiters: "I mean squeeze people a bit and they will resent their masters, squeeze them even more and they will band together for protection against them, squeeze them enough and they'll revolt."
- kelseyfrog 4y agoOh cool, where does he describe this if I wanted to learn more about it?
- ETH_start 4y agoYou can learn about the end results of this ideology here: https://reason.com/1974/11/01/solzhenitsyns-testament/?amp https://reason.com/1974/11/01/solzhenitsyns-testament/?amp
- kelseyfrog 4y agoI'm typically more interested in primary sources. Have you any of those to recommend?
- ETH_start 4y agoSolzhenitsyn's The Gulag Archipelago
- kelseyfrog 4y agoThank you! This is like a founding work of Marx?
- ETH_start 4y agoNo, this is a first hand account of the repression inflicted by the world's leading Marxist state.
- kelseyfrog 4y agoThat's too bad. I was looking forward to reading about the thing itself. If you end up finding some of those please send them my way. Perhaps my request was unclear? You seem more interested in pushing a specific account rather than the foundational sources I'm asking for. Is there a reason you're trying to do this?
- ETH_start 4y agoThe theory is not "the thing itself". The thing itself is the results of that theory when put into practice. That's what I provided. If you are so interested in Marx's words, is there a reason you're not Googling them yourself, instead of asking me for the source while showing complete disinterest in an account of the consequences of his theories put into practice?