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> But I also hate a lot of what they currently stand for. What exactly out of this this you hate so much? https://foundation.mozilla.org/en/advocacy/ https://f

> But I also hate a lot of what they currently stand for. What exactly out of this this you hate so much? https://foundation.mozilla.org/en/advocacy/ https://foundation.mozilla.org/en/advocacy/

pipeline_peak 4y ago
lol so much noise, if this is a browser dev company, they're no better than I am on HN right now during work hours.
- sgjohnson 4y ago
  But it’s far more than a browser dev company, and the Mozilla Foundation is a non-profit entity.
  - pipeline_peak 4y ago
    I guess, I hate to be more pessimistic than I already am, but when I see pointless petitions to “Facebook: Stop Group Recommendations” I don’t see anyone over there truly “fighting the good fight”. I think GNU is a far better example of this type of action. I think an open source foundation has to stand on the shoulder of a valuable product to get noticed. GNU has all of its things, Mozilla is an acoustic guitar busker playing “bulls on parade by Ratm” outside of a Barnes and Nobles.
ThunderSizzle 4y ago
Mozilla: A healthy internet requires an active, global community. Also Mozilla: We need more than deplatforming [of those we disagree with and already attempted to deplatform]
Dalewyn 4y ago
Personally? All of it. None of Mozilla's virtue signalling serves to bring back the Firefox of yore. Firefox has instead followed Chrome's heels at every turn to the point I might as well just use the real deal rather than a third-rate knock off. I want a lean, effective browser that I can tailor to my specific needs and desires, and Firefox has been not that for at least 20 years. Mozilla is (supposed to be) a collective of computer programmers, not activists and lobbyists. So fuck their advocacy, more accurately virtue signalling. All of it. The specifics don't matter. Fuck all of that noise. If they go back to making some good software I might be more supportive and respectful of them again, but not a step before.
- dwaite 4y ago
  > and Firefox has been not that for at least 20 years. FWIW, Firefox was released just under 20 years ago

> But I also hate a lot of what they currently stand for. What exactly out of this this you hate so much? https://foundation.mozilla.org/en/advocacy/ https://foundation.mozilla.org/en/advocacy/

pipeline_peak 4y ago

lol so much noise, if this is a browser dev company, they're no better than I am on HN right now during work hours.

sgjohnson 4y ago
But it’s far more than a browser dev company, and the Mozilla Foundation is a non-profit entity.
- pipeline_peak 4y ago
  I guess, I hate to be more pessimistic than I already am, but when I see pointless petitions to “Facebook: Stop Group Recommendations” I don’t see anyone over there truly “fighting the good fight”. I think GNU is a far better example of this type of action. I think an open source foundation has to stand on the shoulder of a valuable product to get noticed. GNU has all of its things, Mozilla is an acoustic guitar busker playing “bulls on parade by Ratm” outside of a Barnes and Nobles.

ThunderSizzle 4y ago

Mozilla: A healthy internet requires an active, global community. Also Mozilla: We need more than deplatforming [of those we disagree with and already attempted to deplatform]

Dalewyn 4y ago

Personally? All of it. None of Mozilla's virtue signalling serves to bring back the Firefox of yore. Firefox has instead followed Chrome's heels at every turn to the point I might as well just use the real deal rather than a third-rate knock off. I want a lean, effective browser that I can tailor to my specific needs and desires, and Firefox has been not that for at least 20 years. Mozilla is (supposed to be) a collective of computer programmers, not activists and lobbyists. So fuck their advocacy, more accurately virtue signalling. All of it. The specifics don't matter. Fuck all of that noise. If they go back to making some good software I might be more supportive and respectful of them again, but not a step before.

dwaite 4y ago
> and Firefox has been not that for at least 20 years. FWIW, Firefox was released just under 20 years ago