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This will force you to log into every single web site that has commenting. So much for privacy. Privacy will go out the window. Discussion and commenting wil
by pascalxus 4y ago
This will force you to log into every single web site that has commenting. So much for privacy. Privacy will go out the window. Discussion and commenting will go out the window. This bill is deeply undemocratic and very much against a free and open society.
I hope your comment was just being sarcastic.
- paxys 4y ago> This will force you to log into every single web site that has commenting Says who? You just made up a random scenario.
- shadowgovt 4y agoThat's the sense of the bill, essentially. If sites are required to confirm you aren't children before you're allowed into adult conversations, they have to be able to authenticate and authorize you.
- svnt 4y agoWhat is the practical implication of this anywhere beside eg 4chan? Almost every place with any quality of discussion requires logging in. In theory anonymous and instantaneous commenting is an ideal of free speech. In practice it repeatably seems to just become wasteland.
- anotherrandom 4y agoAre you suggesting the lack of it is a preferable alternative?
- idontpost 4y agoI'm suggesting that it's utterly irrelevant.
- nomel 4y agoLogging in and verifying age are very different. See the new account creation process for the comment you typed, as an example.
- tomatotomato37 4y agoActually this won't really affect 4chan either; while it's speculated the servers reside in California there's no critical dependency that they actually stay there, and once the physical servers leave all ties are severed with the state and California looses any reasonable way to enforce the new law. It's kinda the same reason the site is accessible in Germany/UK/whatever despite violating every hate speech law in there jurisdiction
- waynesonfire 4y ago> This will force you to log into every single web site that has commenting. which website doesn't? I can only imagine the high quality discussions that such a site encourages.
- KerrAvon 4y agoYou're literally on one. Do you want to upload your driver's license to Hacker News? Does Hacker News want to be in the business of storing those driver's licenses securely?
- waynesonfire 4y agoI wouldn't use hackernews if they required that. So, maybe they shouldn't store my IP address and location by default.
- shadowgovt 4y agoIf this bill passes it will be illegal for Hacker News to not do that.
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- tshaddox 4y agoHow many different websites is any one person really commenting on these days anyway? It’s not like 1) independent blogs and forums are really a thing any more, 2) the blogs and forums that do barely exist have comments any more, 3) the major news and media companies have comments on their websites any more, or 4) you’d ever want to read them even if they did (let alone post your own!).
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- dfxm12 4y agoCan you qualify any part of your statement? I'm trying to understand where you're coming from, but none of it follows at face value.
- idontpost 4y agoThis fear is completely disconnected from reality. Privacy already doesn't exist online. And discussion and commenting (anonymous or otherwise) have been absolute net negatives for "free and open" society.