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1/3 of Microsoft's revenues and operating income come from their cloud business, which has done much better than Google's.

by arebop 4y ago

colinmhayes 4y ago
Azure has largely been propelled by microsoft's strong business relationships. I think it's likely that google sees gsuite and GCP as synergies given how successful msft has been at parlaying their office contracts into azure signups.
- scarface74 4y ago
  You assume that Google has any competencies in dealing with the enterprise or anything that requires high-touch. And then they hired an Oracle veteran to head GCP. What could possibly go wrong? https://www.crn.com/news/cloud/google-cloud-ceo-thomas-kurian-makes-his-move https://www.crn.com/news/cloud/google-cloud-ceo-thomas-kuria...
  - colinmhayes 4y ago
    Oracle is probably the most competent enterprise software sales organization other than microsoft, seems like that's a pretty reasonable decision if they focus on building out the sales team. And Google probably realizes enterprise sales is a huge problem for them which is why they're investing in these products to make it easier to grow the organization. Selling to enterprises is something Google needs to get good at if they want to grow long term, having strong products to sell helps attract talent and close sales which gives their team experience.
    - scarface74 4y ago
      I have never in 25 years - most of that in the enterprise - has dealt with Oracle enterprise sales and came out feeling good about it.
      - colinmhayes 4y ago
        The measure of success here isn't how good you feel. It's the amount of money they make relative to the quality of their product. Feels indisputable to me that oracle is at the top of the charts with respect to that ratio in enterprise software.
        scarface74 4y ago
        Companies are doing their best to get away from Oracle. I don’t see too many IT people who have been so scarred by MS like they have with Oracle.
        sudosysgen 4y ago
        That's because their software sucks and their sales team was amazing. Their software always sucked so the reason why companies are on Oracle to begin with is in large part due to very effective sales.

1/3 of Microsoft's revenues and operating income come from their cloud business, which has done much better than Google's.

by arebop 4y ago

1/3 of Microsoft's revenues and operating income come from their cloud business, which has done much better than Google's.

colinmhayes 4y ago

Azure has largely been propelled by microsoft's strong business relationships. I think it's likely that google sees gsuite and GCP as synergies given how successful msft has been at parlaying their office contracts into azure signups.

scarface74 4y ago
You assume that Google has any competencies in dealing with the enterprise or anything that requires high-touch. And then they hired an Oracle veteran to head GCP. What could possibly go wrong? https://www.crn.com/news/cloud/google-cloud-ceo-thomas-kurian-makes-his-move https://www.crn.com/news/cloud/google-cloud-ceo-thomas-kuria...
- colinmhayes 4y ago
  Oracle is probably the most competent enterprise software sales organization other than microsoft, seems like that's a pretty reasonable decision if they focus on building out the sales team. And Google probably realizes enterprise sales is a huge problem for them which is why they're investing in these products to make it easier to grow the organization. Selling to enterprises is something Google needs to get good at if they want to grow long term, having strong products to sell helps attract talent and close sales which gives their team experience.
  - scarface74 4y ago
    I have never in 25 years - most of that in the enterprise - has dealt with Oracle enterprise sales and came out feeling good about it.
    - colinmhayes 4y ago
      The measure of success here isn't how good you feel. It's the amount of money they make relative to the quality of their product. Feels indisputable to me that oracle is at the top of the charts with respect to that ratio in enterprise software.
      - scarface74 4y ago
        Companies are doing their best to get away from Oracle. I don’t see too many IT people who have been so scarred by MS like they have with Oracle.
        sudosysgen 4y ago
        That's because their software sucks and their sales team was amazing. Their software always sucked so the reason why companies are on Oracle to begin with is in large part due to very effective sales.