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sama is very active in YC and makes the call on OpenAI product roadmap. Furthermore YC encourages good CEO-community relations. The fact that OpenAI is so far

sama is very active in YC and makes the call on OpenAI product roadmap. Furthermore YC encourages good CEO-community relations. The fact that OpenAI is so far behind Stable Diffusion and has reduced pricing shows that sama wants OpenAI to be a highly profitable enterprise company. I.e. not “Open.” You can do both (e.g. Cloudera) but clearly sama is not strong enough at AI to make this happen.

naillo 4y ago
I kinda feel like they chose the name "open"ai when they started back in 2015 because musk etc wanted exactly the kind of thing stability ai is now creating. I.e. something other than a corporation like google having primary access to these models, and it being more democratized. But as time as gone by they've strayed away from that vision but changing the name would be a PR nightmare.
- wraptile 4y ago
  This is actually an interesting illustration of how infectious a name can be. If they hadn't called it OpenAI, the conversion from open to corporate would be much easier, where's now it's a significant pain point in OpenAI's reputation. It's kinda nice to see the original vision still somewhat having an effect despite no one left to propagate it.
dang 4y ago
> sama is very active in YC and makes the call on OpenAI product roadmap. Furthermore YC encourages good CEO-community relations Sam hasn't been at YC in years and (based on anything I've seen) isn't active in YC at all. As for "YC encourages good CEO-community relations", I have no idea what that means* but it has nothing to do with HN. We encourage good content-community relations and that's it. You have a long history of posting dark insinuations about YC/HN, not to mention nagging the mods about how bad we are and how much better you yourself have done the job in the past. I mostly let the latter go, but when you start with the ethical insinuations, that gets my dander up. It's time you stopped smearing people's reputations on HN. If you have evidence of wrongdoing, post it—I'm sure the community will be extremely interested. If you have no evidence, please stop from now on. (Edit: I realize it probably sounds like I'm over-reacting to the parent comment, but this has been a longstanding pattern. We can cut people slack for years, but not infinitely.) OpenAI stuff and Stable Diffusion stuff (and DeepMind stuff for that matter) are all popular on HN because the community is super interested—that's literally it. We're not pulling strings or playing favorites (we don't even have favorites in that horserace, at least I don't). As a matter of fact, the last thing I did before randomly running across your comment was downweight the current thread because of the complaints at https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32665587 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32665587. * unless you mean that we advise founders about how to write content that actually interests the community—that we do, and not only YC founders but non-YC founders, open source programmers, bloggers, and anyone else. That's all a consequence of wanting HN to have good content and seeking to avoid the boring stuff. By the way, I'm working on an essay about how to write good for HN and avoid boring stuff too; if anyone would like to read it, email me at hn@ycombinator.com and I'll send you a copy.
- fourstar 4y ago
  >that gets my dander up Your w0t m8?
  - dang 4y ago
    Endangered Words Bureau Agent D23 at your service
    - deleted 4y ago
      [deleted]
    - d23 4y ago
      > D23 at your service That's my username, and I'm also named Daniel. This is a conspiracy.
      - dang 4y ago
        Endangered Words Bureau Agent D23a at your service
        swyx 4y ago
        idk how you have time to shitpost while also moderating HN, hats off dang EDIT: just realized.. what if dang was an advanced AGI the entire time and HN has been one giant turing test to see if any of us would notice
    - Trouble_007 4y ago
      >Endangered Words Bureau< "Use Them or we will lose Them!" I used Twixt (An abbreviation of Betwixt) to replace inbetween in a submission. Edit: to fix formatting and spelling

naillo 4y ago

I kinda feel like they chose the name "open"ai when they started back in 2015 because musk etc wanted exactly the kind of thing stability ai is now creating. I.e. something other than a corporation like google having primary access to these models, and it being more democratized. But as time as gone by they've strayed away from that vision but changing the name would be a PR nightmare.

wraptile 4y ago
This is actually an interesting illustration of how infectious a name can be. If they hadn't called it OpenAI, the conversion from open to corporate would be much easier, where's now it's a significant pain point in OpenAI's reputation. It's kinda nice to see the original vision still somewhat having an effect despite no one left to propagate it.

dang 4y ago

> sama is very active in YC and makes the call on OpenAI product roadmap. Furthermore YC encourages good CEO-community relations Sam hasn't been at YC in years and (based on anything I've seen) isn't active in YC at all. As for "YC encourages good CEO-community relations", I have no idea what that means* but it has nothing to do with HN. We encourage good content-community relations and that's it. You have a long history of posting dark insinuations about YC/HN, not to mention nagging the mods about how bad we are and how much better you yourself have done the job in the past. I mostly let the latter go, but when you start with the ethical insinuations, that gets my dander up. It's time you stopped smearing people's reputations on HN. If you have evidence of wrongdoing, post it—I'm sure the community will be extremely interested. If you have no evidence, please stop from now on. (Edit: I realize it probably sounds like I'm over-reacting to the parent comment, but this has been a longstanding pattern. We can cut people slack for years, but not infinitely.) OpenAI stuff and Stable Diffusion stuff (and DeepMind stuff for that matter) are all popular on HN because the community is super interested—that's literally it. We're not pulling strings or playing favorites (we don't even have favorites in that horserace, at least I don't). As a matter of fact, the last thing I did before randomly running across your comment was downweight the current thread because of the complaints at https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32665587 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32665587. * unless you mean that we advise founders about how to write content that actually interests the community—that we do, and not only YC founders but non-YC founders, open source programmers, bloggers, and anyone else. That's all a consequence of wanting HN to have good content and seeking to avoid the boring stuff. By the way, I'm working on an essay about how to write good for HN and avoid boring stuff too; if anyone would like to read it, email me at hn@ycombinator.com and I'll send you a copy.

fourstar 4y ago
>that gets my dander up Your w0t m8?
- dang 4y ago
  Endangered Words Bureau Agent D23 at your service
  - deleted 4y ago
    [deleted]
  - d23 4y ago
    > D23 at your service That's my username, and I'm also named Daniel. This is a conspiracy.
    - dang 4y ago
      Endangered Words Bureau Agent D23a at your service
      - swyx 4y ago
        idk how you have time to shitpost while also moderating HN, hats off dang EDIT: just realized.. what if dang was an advanced AGI the entire time and HN has been one giant turing test to see if any of us would notice
  - Trouble_007 4y ago
    >Endangered Words Bureau< "Use Them or we will lose Them!" I used Twixt (An abbreviation of Betwixt) to replace inbetween in a submission. Edit: to fix formatting and spelling