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How does this further the proper mission of the government, which is to protect individual rights? I can't fathom a way that this could have anything to do wit

How does this further the proper mission of the government, which is to protect individual rights? I can't fathom a way that this could have anything to do with the government doing the one essential job it actually has to do! It's not just that it's a badly made app. I think the entire fact that the government making apps like this is absurd. Given what the government actually is (the only agency with the legitimate, legal monopoly on the use of force), it is no wonder that it fails so miserably at doing stuff like this.

dangrossman 15y ago
This is an app specifically designed to help protect your life (one of those rights) from unsafe employment. I get the dig you're making but this seems a weak target for it...
- javert 15y ago
  The government's duty to protect your life does not extend beyond protecting it from the use of force by other people. If you choose to work in a place, that's your choice. Even if you fail to make sure it's safe before you work there, or decide to work there despite the risk. Anyway, even if OSHA were legitime, this app is not effective at achieving anything, even if executed well.
  - jellicle 15y ago
    Because you've tested it?
  - pndmnm 15y ago
    Your definition of "government's duty" is not universally agreed upon, and it's intellectually dishonest to predicate an argument on the presumption that it is.
    - javert 15y ago
      I didn't present any argument. I just made a statement, without presenting (here) any supporting evidence. Yes, I realize most people won't agree with the statement. My hope is that by providing it as food for thought, some people may thinking about it and decide that they agree, or may at least be more open to the idea when it comes up in some other context. Isn't it intellectually dishonest for you to call someone intellectually dishonest, when you don't know all the relevant causal factors? (Answer: no, it's just a mistake.)
  - tlholaday 15y ago
    > The government's duty to protect your life does not extend beyond protecting it from the use of force by other people. You are mistaken: http://www.amazon.com/Darwin-Economy-Liberty-Competition-Hardcover/product-reviews/B005O1Y8BW http://www.amazon.com/Darwin-Economy-Liberty-Competition-Har... Chapter 1: http://press.princeton.edu/chapters/s9509.pdf http://press.princeton.edu/chapters/s9509.pdf

dangrossman 15y ago

This is an app specifically designed to help protect your life (one of those rights) from unsafe employment. I get the dig you're making but this seems a weak target for it...

javert 15y ago
The government's duty to protect your life does not extend beyond protecting it from the use of force by other people. If you choose to work in a place, that's your choice. Even if you fail to make sure it's safe before you work there, or decide to work there despite the risk. Anyway, even if OSHA were legitime, this app is not effective at achieving anything, even if executed well.
- jellicle 15y ago
  Because you've tested it?
- pndmnm 15y ago
  Your definition of "government's duty" is not universally agreed upon, and it's intellectually dishonest to predicate an argument on the presumption that it is.
  - javert 15y ago
    I didn't present any argument. I just made a statement, without presenting (here) any supporting evidence. Yes, I realize most people won't agree with the statement. My hope is that by providing it as food for thought, some people may thinking about it and decide that they agree, or may at least be more open to the idea when it comes up in some other context. Isn't it intellectually dishonest for you to call someone intellectually dishonest, when you don't know all the relevant causal factors? (Answer: no, it's just a mistake.)
- tlholaday 15y ago
  > The government's duty to protect your life does not extend beyond protecting it from the use of force by other people. You are mistaken: http://www.amazon.com/Darwin-Economy-Liberty-Competition-Hardcover/product-reviews/B005O1Y8BW http://www.amazon.com/Darwin-Economy-Liberty-Competition-Har... Chapter 1: http://press.princeton.edu/chapters/s9509.pdf http://press.princeton.edu/chapters/s9509.pdf