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I feel like this hasn't gotten the attention it deserves worldwide relative to the amount of suffering it is causing.

ethbr0 4y ago
More people should be aware of countries by relative population: https://ourworldindata.org/uploads/2021/12/Population-cartogram_World.png https://ourworldindata.org/uploads/2021/12/Population-cartog... It makes you understand the importance of Brazil, Nigeria, Pakistan, Bangladesh, and Indonesia for things that impact people.
rajman187 4y ago
Suffering has been normalized for some, unfortunately, and any devastation striking that region is glossed over almost as if calamity is expected to befall. See for instance the outcry and support for Ukraine (not diminishing their dire circumstances by any means) and immediate call to take refugees while sympathy for southern and western Asian states has fallen to the wayside.
- steve76 4y ago
DoreenMichele 4y ago
Pakistan is a nation of children and refugees. It's not well positioned to self advocate on the world stage. Pakistan is the world's fifth-most-populous country. The population is young: in 2019 34.8% were thought to be 14 or younger https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Youth_in_Pakistan https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Youth_in_Pakistan Pakistan has one of the world's youngest populations. The country's population structure is relatively young, with a median age of 19. Pakistan is also thought to have the world's fourth-largest refugee population, estimated at 1.4 million in mid-2021 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Pakistan https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Pakistan
- okdood64 4y ago
  > Pakistan is a nation of children and refugees. It's not well positioned to self advocate on the world stage. I don't understand. Why can't the government self advocate given it's a nation of children and refugees?
  - Loughla 4y ago
    Maybe I'm jaded, but I take it to mean that the country is poor for the reasons stated. It has neither the global pull, nor the connections to massive corporations to make it anything but a humanitarian issue. This is a harder sell to other countries than a business and industry issue.
- noSyncCloud 4y ago
  >median age of 19. This is wild. Google says the US is 38, Germany 45, Japan 48 for some random examples (the top search result for me says Pakistan median age is 22, which is still crazy).
  - mistrial9 4y ago
    some other (often Muslim) countries are like this right now; it is well known in demographic studies
- kshacker 4y ago
  Nation of Children - sure. Nation of Refugees - now or always? Now due to floods I can understand. But if always, I do not understand. They have been a "stable" country for half a century. When I say "stable", I mean without any land being lost or won since 1971, which puts the last major change at almost 51 years and 51 years should be a long time for any refugees to be assimilate, no?
  - MichaelCollins 4y ago
    50 years is nothing if you're talking about geo-engineering projects to stabilize your community. Dike construction in the Netherlands has been underway for well over a thousand years. 50 years probably isn't even enough time for the importance of such projects to truly permeate a culture.

More people should be aware of countries by relative population: https://ourworldindata.org/uploads/2021/12/Population-cartogram_World.png https://ourworldindata.org/uploads/2021/12/Population-cartog... It makes you understand the importance of Brazil, Nigeria, Pakistan, Bangladesh, and Indonesia for things that impact people.

rajman187 4y ago

Suffering has been normalized for some, unfortunately, and any devastation striking that region is glossed over almost as if calamity is expected to befall. See for instance the outcry and support for Ukraine (not diminishing their dire circumstances by any means) and immediate call to take refugees while sympathy for southern and western Asian states has fallen to the wayside.

steve76 4y ago

DoreenMichele 4y ago

Pakistan is a nation of children and refugees. It's not well positioned to self advocate on the world stage. Pakistan is the world's fifth-most-populous country. The population is young: in 2019 34.8% were thought to be 14 or younger https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Youth_in_Pakistan https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Youth_in_Pakistan Pakistan has one of the world's youngest populations. The country's population structure is relatively young, with a median age of 19. Pakistan is also thought to have the world's fourth-largest refugee population, estimated at 1.4 million in mid-2021 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Pakistan https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Pakistan

okdood64 4y ago
> Pakistan is a nation of children and refugees. It's not well positioned to self advocate on the world stage. I don't understand. Why can't the government self advocate given it's a nation of children and refugees?
- Loughla 4y ago
  Maybe I'm jaded, but I take it to mean that the country is poor for the reasons stated. It has neither the global pull, nor the connections to massive corporations to make it anything but a humanitarian issue. This is a harder sell to other countries than a business and industry issue.
noSyncCloud 4y ago
>median age of 19. This is wild. Google says the US is 38, Germany 45, Japan 48 for some random examples (the top search result for me says Pakistan median age is 22, which is still crazy).
- mistrial9 4y ago
  some other (often Muslim) countries are like this right now; it is well known in demographic studies
kshacker 4y ago
Nation of Children - sure. Nation of Refugees - now or always? Now due to floods I can understand. But if always, I do not understand. They have been a "stable" country for half a century. When I say "stable", I mean without any land being lost or won since 1971, which puts the last major change at almost 51 years and 51 years should be a long time for any refugees to be assimilate, no?
- MichaelCollins 4y ago
  50 years is nothing if you're talking about geo-engineering projects to stabilize your community. Dike construction in the Netherlands has been underway for well over a thousand years. 50 years probably isn't even enough time for the importance of such projects to truly permeate a culture.