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A few weeks ago I was skeptical that this technology would get past the emotional response we get from procedurally generated game environments, but I've been c

A few weeks ago I was skeptical that this technology would get past the emotional response we get from procedurally generated game environments, but I've been convinced otherwise. The emotional response I get from some of the best of these images are novel and thought provoking. Makes me wonder what percent of what makes us human is now algorithmically solved....

maxwell 4y ago
Maybe. I've been often reminded lately of Herbert Goldstone's "Virtuoso" (1958): http://elateachers.weebly.com/uploads/2/7/0/1/27012625/virtuoso.pdf http://elateachers.weebly.com/uploads/2/7/0/1/27012625/virtu...
sleepdreamy 4y ago
We still know basically nothing about our Brain/Consciousness. I would say we have a lot more to explore/research
- mensetmanusman 4y ago
  Our brain is apparently just a 4 gb large arrangement of electrical weights.
  - d23 4y ago
    Not to be pedantic, but we have on the order of 100B neurons, and afaik each of them can be connected to thousands of other neurons. I assume we probably have a ways to go before we're encoding the amount of information a brain can comprehend.
    - astrange 4y ago
      Also, your brain knows how to look up things in external storage, but ML models have to keep everything in their weights even if it's not a good fit.
aidenn0 4y ago
My wife likes impressionists and sunflowers. "A lone sunflower in a grassy field at sunset oil painting claude monet" plus stable-diffusion and a few minutes of tweaking some settings; she now has a new desktop background.
- boppo1 4y ago
  I actually paint and spend a lot of time looking at 'serious' paintings. AI hasn't even scratched the field to a trained eye. Doesn't mean I'm not excited though. This kind-of feels like I'm watching the camera or printing press being invented. Everyone is comparing it to fine art, but I think ultimately it's going in a different and bigger direction.
  - aidenn0 4y ago
    What I did was, IMO, a different and bigger direction to fine art. I mean I could tell that this wasn't an impressionistic painting just given that some areas of the grass were too detailed. It looks "just fine" though to untrained eyes, which are well over 90% of the population. 1. How long would it have taken me to get good enough at painting to exceed what I generated in under an hour? How many people have the motivation to spend that time? 2. How much would I have had to pay an art student to make a painting better than what I generated in under an hour? Ten million sub-par Monet knock-offs didn't exist, but could exist very shortly at minimal cost. Even if it never gets any better this is already potentially disruptive, and the models are getting better every month.
  - bottlepalm 4y ago
    I've heard this a lot, luckily it's not that hard to test if you can really tell the difference. We need someone to create the 'AI Pepsi challenge' for artists to settle this.
    - bottlepalm 4y ago
      That was fast, looks like artists can't tell, AI wins first prize in an art competition! https://www.vice.com/en/article/bvmvqm/an-ai-generated-artwork-won-first-place-at-a-state-fair-fine-arts-competition-and-artists-are-pissed https://www.vice.com/en/article/bvmvqm/an-ai-generated-artwo...

maxwell 4y ago

Maybe. I've been often reminded lately of Herbert Goldstone's "Virtuoso" (1958): http://elateachers.weebly.com/uploads/2/7/0/1/27012625/virtuoso.pdf http://elateachers.weebly.com/uploads/2/7/0/1/27012625/virtu...

sleepdreamy 4y ago

We still know basically nothing about our Brain/Consciousness. I would say we have a lot more to explore/research

mensetmanusman 4y ago
Our brain is apparently just a 4 gb large arrangement of electrical weights.
- d23 4y ago
  Not to be pedantic, but we have on the order of 100B neurons, and afaik each of them can be connected to thousands of other neurons. I assume we probably have a ways to go before we're encoding the amount of information a brain can comprehend.
  - astrange 4y ago
    Also, your brain knows how to look up things in external storage, but ML models have to keep everything in their weights even if it's not a good fit.

aidenn0 4y ago

My wife likes impressionists and sunflowers. "A lone sunflower in a grassy field at sunset oil painting claude monet" plus stable-diffusion and a few minutes of tweaking some settings; she now has a new desktop background.

boppo1 4y ago
I actually paint and spend a lot of time looking at 'serious' paintings. AI hasn't even scratched the field to a trained eye. Doesn't mean I'm not excited though. This kind-of feels like I'm watching the camera or printing press being invented. Everyone is comparing it to fine art, but I think ultimately it's going in a different and bigger direction.
- aidenn0 4y ago
  What I did was, IMO, a different and bigger direction to fine art. I mean I could tell that this wasn't an impressionistic painting just given that some areas of the grass were too detailed. It looks "just fine" though to untrained eyes, which are well over 90% of the population. 1. How long would it have taken me to get good enough at painting to exceed what I generated in under an hour? How many people have the motivation to spend that time? 2. How much would I have had to pay an art student to make a painting better than what I generated in under an hour? Ten million sub-par Monet knock-offs didn't exist, but could exist very shortly at minimal cost. Even if it never gets any better this is already potentially disruptive, and the models are getting better every month.
- bottlepalm 4y ago
  I've heard this a lot, luckily it's not that hard to test if you can really tell the difference. We need someone to create the 'AI Pepsi challenge' for artists to settle this.
  - bottlepalm 4y ago
    That was fast, looks like artists can't tell, AI wins first prize in an art competition! https://www.vice.com/en/article/bvmvqm/an-ai-generated-artwork-won-first-place-at-a-state-fair-fine-arts-competition-and-artists-are-pissed https://www.vice.com/en/article/bvmvqm/an-ai-generated-artwo...