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similar work using Stable Diffusion in a Photoshop plugin: https://old.reddit.com/r/StableDiffusion/comments/wyduk1/show_rstablediffusion_integrating_sd_in_pho

• rvz 4y ago
  So DALL-E is already old news and the Stable Diffusion ecosystem is once again already ahead especially with this announcement. Quite funny to see OpenAI panicking and falling on their own sword, as they were supposed to be 'Open' in the first place and are now being disrupted by open source.
  • sroussey 4y ago
    I came to say something similar. It feels like “OpenAI” was just a trademark grab to prevent others from using it. Of course, all conspiracy theories work well when looking backward in time.
  • Blackthorn 4y ago
    Couldn't happen to a more deserving group of people. Good riddance. Squatting the name "open" and trying to reap the benefits therein while being anything but.
    • ben_w 4y ago
      What benefits? The parent is non-profit. I'd argue they're imperfect, but they don't look like arses. Big gap between the two, too.
      • aabhay 4y ago
        Are they non-profit? Does receiving $1b investment from a for-profit company still mean you can be non-profit?
        • ben_w 4y ago
          Yes to both questions. It's a (set of) specific thing(s) in company law. https://projects.propublica.org/nonprofits/organizations/810861541 https://projects.propublica.org/nonprofits/organizations/810...
      • scoopertrooper 4y ago
        The parent may be non-profit, but OpenAI LP accepts investments and delivers returns to investors like any other regular company. The only difference is that they 'cap' the returns. However, the cap is negotiated with individuals investor and I haven't seen anything disclosing the cap except for the fact that in the opening round the cap was 100x the initial investment. 100x seems like a pretty generous cap to me.
        • ben_w 4y ago
          I'm not a business investor so I can't really tell if x100 is "a lot" or not — Apple and Amazon share prices went up by x500 in the last 20 years, Tesla x200 in the last 10. But how rare is that?
          • scoopertrooper 4y ago
            They call them unicorns for a reason.
    • ItsTooMuch 4y ago
      I thought their research actually is open, at least? That's still something...
      • aabhay 4y ago
        Their research is closed -- they don't release model weights, nor in most cases the training or model scripts. Certain things they release, just like any other for-profit research firm.
        • skybrian 4y ago
          I don't see what it has to do with profit since this is pretty normal in academia too. Scientists will often publish papers, but not everything they do. "Open" is not well-defined.
        • ItsTooMuch 4y ago
          As the sibling says, in academia this is already more than open...
          • Blackthorn 4y ago
            Open means something. It is a, for lack of a better phrase, virtue signal. When you do that but don't actually represent the virtue you are trying to signal, people will understandably get pretty upset about that.
            • ItsTooMuch 4y ago
              The notion of open in software and in academia is different, that for sure. But does that make one or the other wrong? My friends doing physics or math don't understand the hate at all when I discuss it with them. From their point of view, you don't have to pay hundreds of dollars to read it = it's open. The research is there, code is left as exercise to the reader - that's also normal to them... And the notion of giving away free compute time is funny to them. Run your own cluster, they say. I'm not saying I agree with them, I'm a software person and open means to me what it means to you. I'd prefer if it was truly open by our definition. But I don't think we can bash the choice of the word so easily.
    • JackFr 4y ago
      I've been complaining for years about WikiLeaks not being a wiki -- no one wants to listen....
      • kylebenzle 4y ago
      • TakeBlaster16 4y ago
        To be fair, it started out as a wiki, and they just never changed the name. There's no CSS here but you can clearly see the MediaWiki template: https://web.archive.org/web/20090422103636/http://www.wikileaks.com/ https://web.archive.org/web/20090422103636/http://www.wikile...
      • dotancohen 4y ago
        Wiki means "quick". Are you complaining about the speed of their publishing submitted information?
        • JackFr 4y ago
          Wiki means quick in Hawaiian. In English it refers to a website who’s content is user-editable.
  • robertlagrant 4y ago
    > and falling on their own sword That's not what that means.
  • skybrian 4y ago
    This is just nonsense. I pay (a small amount) for both. They have different strengths and it’s fun to compare. Adding new features to a product is not a sign of panic, it’s just normal.
    • wongarsu 4y ago
      Dall-E so far hasn't been able to grow an ecosystem because of how restricted it is. Meanwhile Stable Diffusion makes trial-and-error and innovation around it easy, and as a result only 9 days after Stable Diffusion's release we see OpenAI release a feature that looks like a copy of a tool from the Stable Diffusion ecosystem. I agree that Dall-E isn't obsolete. I'd also add MidJourney to that list. All three are great models in their own right with their own pronounced strengths and weaknesses. But when it comes to enabling novel workflows Stable Diffusion seems lightyears ahead of the others.
      • krisoft 4y ago
        Except you are wrong. This feature was already available as part of the Dall-e ecosystem. There was a website called patch-e which facilitated this exact same workflow.
  • mromanuk 4y ago
    The only move left for OpenAI, is honour their name and make their own AI Open Source.
    • shrimpx 4y ago
      Or rename themselves OpaqueAI.
  • crypto420_69 4y ago
    Also its quite funny to see OpenAI (with all their researchers and engineers) get disrupted by someone with little to no background (Emad) in AI and ML but who embraced OpenAI's original mission about making AI as open as possible.