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What do you mean by that exactly?
by ajvs 4y ago
What do you mean by that exactly?
- agentdrtran 4y agoThey have a track record of brutal, lengthy harassment that has already pushed at least one person to take their own life after years of abuse.
- banannaise 4y agoPer wikipedia, the actual number is three. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kiwi_Farms#Suicides_of_harassment_targets https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kiwi_Farms#Suicides_of_harassm...
- noptd 4y agoI wonder how that number compares to other forums and social media sites. Seems odd to me that everyone is hyper-fixating on that site, as tasteless as it may be, when much larger ones are given a pass.
- leesalminen 4y agoMobs always attack the weakest link. KF is not widely known- if it were canceled basically nobody would care.
- banannaise 4y agoI think there are two key reasons: 1. KiwiFarms was explicitly created for essentially that purpose 2. It's far more extreme. Part of the reason it exists is because people on these larger sites (notably, 2000s-era SomethingAwful) were getting progressively more concerned and uncomfortable with the behavior. Sure, it's a concern in other places, but there are checks there. KiwiFarms has none of those checks because the behavior is the intended use of the site. So, sure, you could go after some of these other places, but KF sounds like a very good starting point.
- squeaky-clean 4y agoTwitter mobs can drive people to get fired, websites or companies to shut down... But KF literally drives people to suicide or calls in fake situations to get a SWAT team to ambush a home and in the hopes they shoot the people they are harassing. People are worried more about ending a website than they are worried about ending actual lives.
- ta1235414335 4y ago
- phillipcarter 4y agoYou can use Google, you know.
- yanderekko 4y ago>But KF literally drives people to suicide or calls in fake situations to get a SWAT team to ambush a home and in the hopes they shoot the people they are harassing. Are you actually implying that Twitter mobs haven't done all of these things too? This is obviously wrong.
- schleck8 4y agoSo we should keep up Kiwifarms because something similar has happened on Twitter? Is that the logic? Instead of removing one of the evils let's keep them both up because fairness or something like that?
- yanderekko 4y agoThe logic is that we shouldn't use some sort of "one drop" thinking to characterize a platform as broadly evil based on its worst users.
- pjc50 4y agoThe problem here is that KF does not have "substantial noninfringing uses", it's all harassment even if most of it is non-fatal.