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Dupe from 20 hours ago, 114 points, same article: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32654226 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32654226

Brystephor 4y ago
Maybe this one can be updated with the axios article? https://www.axios.com/2022/08/31/snap-restructuring-layoffs https://www.axios.com/2022/08/31/snap-restructuring-layoffs
dang 4y ago
Hmm, believe it or not that one only made the front page for 1 minute. Given that the submission didn't get frontpage attention and that the thread there is rather poor, I think we can let the current post escape the fate of dupeage. I've been working on software to detect such threads (i.e. highly active discussions that are 'underwater') but it's not hooked up yet.
- geerlingguy 4y ago
  Just wondering behind-the-scenes, is a thread like that flagged or something... or did it just not hit the right metrics at the right time to float up on the front page?
  - dang 4y ago
    Not flagged, but that domain is downweighted, as are most major media/web sites on HN. The downweight is pretty carefully calibrated to allow the (hopefully) most interesting (or at least most upvoted) articles through, but then we get these weird outliers that stay underwater. I'm not so worried about a major news piece (someone else will just repost a different version of the story, as happened here), but sometimes there are really cool and interesting posts that get lots of upvotes and even comments without ever reaching escape velocity. It's a bit Rube Goldbergian but my thought is to have separate software watching for those, and maybe plugging them into the second-chance pool or something (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26998308 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26998308).
- ryandrake 4y ago
  HN has an "active" view which shows threads with lots of discussion, regardless of their front page status. I find it's a much better way to browse HN: https://news.ycombinator.com/active https://news.ycombinator.com/active EDIT: LOL, looking at the parent, I'm replying to dang about his own site. I'm an idiot sometimes. Feel free to nuke this.
  - hotpotamus 4y ago
    You're replying to the (as far as I know) solo mod of HN. I suspect he knows about the active view ;) though that's new info to me.
    - dredmorbius 4y ago
      HN comments are typically best considered "to the field" rather than to the parent commenter alone. I'm pretty sure dang's familiar with the feature. You're better considered the intended audience.
  - jibe 4y ago
    Wonder why that's isn't in the nav - to cool down active discussions?
    - dang 4y ago
      Yes, they generate enough heat as it is.
  - doublerebel 4y ago
    I basically do the same. My primary interface is https://www.hckrnews.com https://www.hckrnews.com which shows active/popular stories in chronological order. Makes it much easier and faster to tell what I've already seen.
  - dang 4y ago
    That's no problem! Lots of people probably don't know about it. But it would be good to link to https://news.ycombinator.com/lists https://news.ycombinator.com/lists (also linked in the footer of every HN page) since there are other obscure things there too.

Brystephor 4y ago

Maybe this one can be updated with the axios article? https://www.axios.com/2022/08/31/snap-restructuring-layoffs https://www.axios.com/2022/08/31/snap-restructuring-layoffs

dang 4y ago

Hmm, believe it or not that one only made the front page for 1 minute. Given that the submission didn't get frontpage attention and that the thread there is rather poor, I think we can let the current post escape the fate of dupeage. I've been working on software to detect such threads (i.e. highly active discussions that are 'underwater') but it's not hooked up yet.

geerlingguy 4y ago
Just wondering behind-the-scenes, is a thread like that flagged or something... or did it just not hit the right metrics at the right time to float up on the front page?
- dang 4y ago
  Not flagged, but that domain is downweighted, as are most major media/web sites on HN. The downweight is pretty carefully calibrated to allow the (hopefully) most interesting (or at least most upvoted) articles through, but then we get these weird outliers that stay underwater. I'm not so worried about a major news piece (someone else will just repost a different version of the story, as happened here), but sometimes there are really cool and interesting posts that get lots of upvotes and even comments without ever reaching escape velocity. It's a bit Rube Goldbergian but my thought is to have separate software watching for those, and maybe plugging them into the second-chance pool or something (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26998308 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26998308).
ryandrake 4y ago
HN has an "active" view which shows threads with lots of discussion, regardless of their front page status. I find it's a much better way to browse HN: https://news.ycombinator.com/active https://news.ycombinator.com/active EDIT: LOL, looking at the parent, I'm replying to dang about his own site. I'm an idiot sometimes. Feel free to nuke this.
- hotpotamus 4y ago
  You're replying to the (as far as I know) solo mod of HN. I suspect he knows about the active view ;) though that's new info to me.
  - dredmorbius 4y ago
    HN comments are typically best considered "to the field" rather than to the parent commenter alone. I'm pretty sure dang's familiar with the feature. You're better considered the intended audience.
- jibe 4y ago
  Wonder why that's isn't in the nav - to cool down active discussions?
  - dang 4y ago
    Yes, they generate enough heat as it is.
- doublerebel 4y ago
  I basically do the same. My primary interface is https://www.hckrnews.com https://www.hckrnews.com which shows active/popular stories in chronological order. Makes it much easier and faster to tell what I've already seen.
- dang 4y ago
  That's no problem! Lots of people probably don't know about it. But it would be good to link to https://news.ycombinator.com/lists https://news.ycombinator.com/lists (also linked in the footer of every HN page) since there are other obscure things there too.