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I don't believe anyone is suggesting they should be drilling but they can build terminals, use nuclear and otherwise broker more trade deals.

readthenotes1 4y ago
And maybe not close their nuclear plants? The timing of the 2nd invasion of Ukraine 2 months after Germany shut down 3 of its plants is suggestive.
- hef19898 4y ago
  Germny: Nuclear for electricity, gas for heating, indusyry and chemicals. Now tell me how more nuclear power would have helped with a gas shortage (since Germany is filling up gas reservoirs atm I'm not even sure how bad the shortage really is)? And don't say France, because we will have cooler rivers and more rain again come fall / winter.
  - blackoil 4y ago
    Ask Bosch to build the heart pumps. Highly efficient, run on electricity.
    - hef19898 4y ago
      Sure, and that will be done, including installation, for 80 million people before Christmas. 2022 that is. Or how much do you think such a transition will take?
      - blackoil 4y ago
        Sure, it can be just start in 2002.
        hef19898 4y ago
        In which it wont help a single bit in the short term. Like masks and vaccines during Covid, you need short term fixes until something mid to long term is put in place.
  - ArgusStrav 4y ago
    Simple replacement. Germany also uses gas for 12% of its electricity generation. Every bit of gas not used for electricity generation is gas saved for heating and so on. "since Germany is filling up gas reservoirs atm I'm not even sure how bad the shortage really is" What are you talking about? It's summer, gas is used for heating, of course it's not a critical issue per se now. Germany is saving gas for the winter, when it heavily uses gas and when Russia will almost certainly cut off the remaining supplies. And for what it's worth, Germany is already beginning rationing actions for energy starting tomorrow, so even now there is actually already some urgency, which will grow as it gets closer to winter.
    - hef19898 4y ago
      Point is, gas recervoirs are filling faster than anticipated. Which I call success in the current environment.
      - laverya 4y ago
        The gas reservoirs don't hold enough to get through a winter. They hold enough so that with normal inflows, there's enough gas in the winter - while drawing down the stocks. You need both ~full storage and continuing supplies to get through a winter.
        hef19898 4y ago
        Sure. And still ir stands that reservoirs are filling up faster than anticipated. I'm in supply chain, and if during a period where inventory is hard to come by said inventory is replenished faster than planned, that is usually a good thing.

readthenotes1 4y ago

And maybe not close their nuclear plants? The timing of the 2nd invasion of Ukraine 2 months after Germany shut down 3 of its plants is suggestive.

hef19898 4y ago
Germny: Nuclear for electricity, gas for heating, indusyry and chemicals. Now tell me how more nuclear power would have helped with a gas shortage (since Germany is filling up gas reservoirs atm I'm not even sure how bad the shortage really is)? And don't say France, because we will have cooler rivers and more rain again come fall / winter.
- blackoil 4y ago
  Ask Bosch to build the heart pumps. Highly efficient, run on electricity.
  - hef19898 4y ago
    Sure, and that will be done, including installation, for 80 million people before Christmas. 2022 that is. Or how much do you think such a transition will take?
    - blackoil 4y ago
      Sure, it can be just start in 2002.
      - hef19898 4y ago
        In which it wont help a single bit in the short term. Like masks and vaccines during Covid, you need short term fixes until something mid to long term is put in place.
- ArgusStrav 4y ago
  Simple replacement. Germany also uses gas for 12% of its electricity generation. Every bit of gas not used for electricity generation is gas saved for heating and so on. "since Germany is filling up gas reservoirs atm I'm not even sure how bad the shortage really is" What are you talking about? It's summer, gas is used for heating, of course it's not a critical issue per se now. Germany is saving gas for the winter, when it heavily uses gas and when Russia will almost certainly cut off the remaining supplies. And for what it's worth, Germany is already beginning rationing actions for energy starting tomorrow, so even now there is actually already some urgency, which will grow as it gets closer to winter.
  - hef19898 4y ago
    Point is, gas recervoirs are filling faster than anticipated. Which I call success in the current environment.
    - laverya 4y ago
      The gas reservoirs don't hold enough to get through a winter. They hold enough so that with normal inflows, there's enough gas in the winter - while drawing down the stocks. You need both ~full storage and continuing supplies to get through a winter.
      - hef19898 4y ago
        Sure. And still ir stands that reservoirs are filling up faster than anticipated. I'm in supply chain, and if during a period where inventory is hard to come by said inventory is replenished faster than planned, that is usually a good thing.