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China is literally reselling Russian LNG to the Eurozone. Incredible. Trump was right when he warned them about being dependent on Russia. They laughed and dis
by typeofhuman 4y ago
China is literally reselling Russian LNG to the Eurozone.
Incredible. Trump was right when he warned them about being dependent on Russia. They laughed and dismissed it.
- timbit42 4y agoIt's more likely Trump's advisors were right.
- hef19898 4y agoGermany got Soviet gas reliably for 50+ years. Trump eanted to sell US LNG, nothong else to see here. And any news of Europes death in a blacked out winter are overstated.
- dageshi 4y agoA diversity of options for gas would still have been good as we now learn.
- hef19898 4y agoNice hindsight is 20/20 comment...
- dageshi 4y agoFor something as significant as keeping your population warm in winter I don't think this is "hindsight". This is one of those things that a government should pay core attention to because of the consequences of it going wrong.
- hef19898 4y agoSince winter in Europe has yet to come, there is no way to say whether or not it will be a problem. Somehow this discussion reminds of the first months of Covid. A lot of complaining and crying about water under the bridgebfrom the benefit of hindsight. Without thinking about timelines, costs of alternatives and past experiences. All from the sidelines of course, brcause in the end we are all better football coaches tgan the actual coaches, aren't we?
- nivenkos 4y agoBut it's Europe's decision to effectively attack Russia that has caused the problem though. We could've just stayed neutral and opened NS2 and avoided any issues, whilst investing in nuclear power for the future. There was no obligation to support the Ukrainian military, their refusal to allow for self-determination in the Donbass or their tenuous claim on the Crimea (arbitrarily transferred from Russia by the Bolsheviks - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transfer_of_Crimea_in_the_Soviet_Union#Motivation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transfer_of_Crimea_in_the_Sovi... ).
- ChildOfChaos 4y agoWhy should Europe stay neutral and just allow Russia to invade a country for no reason?
- nivenkos 4y agoIt isn't for no reason. You don't have to agree with them to understand their position in supporting the self-determination of Russian descendants in the Donbass after Euromaidan, and in not recognising Khrushchev's arbitrary transfer of the Crimea to Ukraine. I don't think they're right to invade. But I don't understand why we're sacrificing our economies to support Ukrainian nationalists either (especially re. the Crimea).
- dougmwne 4y agoBut Europe also wants to expand its free movement zone to include Ukraine’s inexpensive workforce. It stands to gain if it can bring Ukraine fully into it’s fold and Russia stands to lose.
- _vbnz 4y agoYeah, European capitalists at least. And they'll destroy our wages and trade unions even further.