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CloudFlare opened Pandora's box. It will never be able to shut it. When private companies become enforcers of public morality, you will quickly find morality i

CloudFlare opened Pandora's box. It will never be able to shut it. When private companies become enforcers of public morality, you will quickly find morality is shaped by what is profitable. This is a horrible idea.

wbl 4y ago
Every isp in the world has an AUP and enforces it.
dmix 4y ago
As we see with Facebook getting pressured by the FBI to preemptively censor information before evening finding out if it's misinformation or not (or even coming from Russia or not). They were basically trusting the FBI to have people's best interests at heart and letting the details work itself out later. All of these attempts at moderating the internet always get misused, the scope forever expands, and usually does little IRL to stop ideas from spreading (even the FBI example resulted in a massive Streisand effect, because censorship immediately makes people pay attention). Trusting billion dollar tech companies with this responsibility should be treated like crazy-talk. Even stuff like transparency on motives, transparency on algorithm changes, processes for challenging it, etc etc, are usually not part of the deal.
JYellensFuckboy 4y ago
Cloudfare's stance is pretty clearly amoral.
hnbad 4y ago
Every individual in a society is "enforcer of public morality". Corporations are just different to regular people in that they wield a disproportionate amount of power and capital. If you want to abolish the system allowing corporations levels of power effectively equivalent to public utilities and branches of government, we can have that conversation. But if you want to continue them to have that and are still outraged about their decisions it's not because of a principled stance about them being "enforcers of public morality", you just disagree with their morality.

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CloudFlare opened Pandora's box. It will never be able to shut it. When private companies become enforcers of public morality, you will quickly find morality i

by bjt2n3904 4y ago

wbl 4y ago
Every isp in the world has an AUP and enforces it.
dmix 4y ago
As we see with Facebook getting pressured by the FBI to preemptively censor information before evening finding out if it's misinformation or not (or even coming from Russia or not). They were basically trusting the FBI to have people's best interests at heart and letting the details work itself out later. All of these attempts at moderating the internet always get misused, the scope forever expands, and usually does little IRL to stop ideas from spreading (even the FBI example resulted in a massive Streisand effect, because censorship immediately makes people pay attention). Trusting billion dollar tech companies with this responsibility should be treated like crazy-talk. Even stuff like transparency on motives, transparency on algorithm changes, processes for challenging it, etc etc, are usually not part of the deal.
JYellensFuckboy 4y ago
Cloudfare's stance is pretty clearly amoral.
hnbad 4y ago
Every individual in a society is "enforcer of public morality". Corporations are just different to regular people in that they wield a disproportionate amount of power and capital. If you want to abolish the system allowing corporations levels of power effectively equivalent to public utilities and branches of government, we can have that conversation. But if you want to continue them to have that and are still outraged about their decisions it's not because of a principled stance about them being "enforcers of public morality", you just disagree with their morality.