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8chan users radicalize each other and encourage each other to commit mass shootings. KiwiFarms users post the personal information of people and encourage each

by Borgz 4y ago

8chan users radicalize each other and encourage each other to commit mass shootings. KiwiFarms users post the personal information of people and encourage each other to harass them to the point of suicide. I don't see how they aren't comparable.

wahnfrieden 4y ago
Swatting also results in shooting deaths
paulmd 4y ago
What is the distinction you are drawing between a death from a swatting and pulling the trigger yourself? Is this some "I didn't kill you, I just tied you up and left you on the tracks at 11:55 for the noon train" distinction? And just because the attacks aren't explicitly coordinated on the site doesn't mean there's not culpability there... if an 8chan user is radicalized by 8chan and attacks a target suggested by 8chan, that doesn't mean 8chan isn't responsible just because the user didn't explicitly type "yes I am going to attack on Febtober 7th at 2pm". That's sort of the problem with the whole "stochastic terrorism" thing... there's a transparently thin veneer of deniability for everyone involved, even the leaders. We obviously don't tolerate those excuses when dealing with jihad, you're going to get sanctioned or even bombed even if you're "just their spiritual leader and not actually involved with planning. There's no reason to with 8chan or KF either.
- kmeisthax 4y ago
  I think the post you were replying to was agreeing with you. "I don't see how they aren't comparable", i.e. they are comparable.
Akronymus 4y ago
> KiwiFarms users post the personal information of people and encourage each other to harass them to the point of suicide. Both of those things are EXPLICITLY against the rules and are heavily enforced. They only take public information and are point and laugh, but don't touch. Reprehensible for sure, but your portrayal isn't accurate.
- brazzledazzle 4y ago
  That’s a technicality and you know it. No one is stupid enough to believe they’re posting this personal information to laugh at it, right? What’s funny about a phone number and or a street address?

by Borgz 4y ago

wahnfrieden 4y ago

Swatting also results in shooting deaths

paulmd 4y ago

What is the distinction you are drawing between a death from a swatting and pulling the trigger yourself? Is this some "I didn't kill you, I just tied you up and left you on the tracks at 11:55 for the noon train" distinction? And just because the attacks aren't explicitly coordinated on the site doesn't mean there's not culpability there... if an 8chan user is radicalized by 8chan and attacks a target suggested by 8chan, that doesn't mean 8chan isn't responsible just because the user didn't explicitly type "yes I am going to attack on Febtober 7th at 2pm". That's sort of the problem with the whole "stochastic terrorism" thing... there's a transparently thin veneer of deniability for everyone involved, even the leaders. We obviously don't tolerate those excuses when dealing with jihad, you're going to get sanctioned or even bombed even if you're "just their spiritual leader and not actually involved with planning. There's no reason to with 8chan or KF either.

kmeisthax 4y ago
I think the post you were replying to was agreeing with you. "I don't see how they aren't comparable", i.e. they are comparable.

Akronymus 4y ago

> KiwiFarms users post the personal information of people and encourage each other to harass them to the point of suicide. Both of those things are EXPLICITLY against the rules and are heavily enforced. They only take public information and are point and laugh, but don't touch. Reprehensible for sure, but your portrayal isn't accurate.

brazzledazzle 4y ago
That’s a technicality and you know it. No one is stupid enough to believe they’re posting this personal information to laugh at it, right? What’s funny about a phone number and or a street address?