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There are graphs from the CDC in this PDF for the data that NYT is reporting: https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/vsrr/vsrr023.pdf https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/vsrr/

by sct202 4y ago

There are graphs from the CDC in this PDF for the data that NYT is reporting: https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/vsrr/vsrr023.pdf https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/vsrr/vsrr023.pdf Idk why they decided to write out every single number when a chart or graph would have been easier to read.

quenix 4y ago
The graph is quite shocking to me. Looks like the series was coasting around a constant 76.5-ish until 2019, where it completely nosedived twice in a row. Is this due to COVID?
- colpabar 4y ago
  Hard to say. What we know for sure is that it 100% does NOT have ANYTHING to do with the safe and effective vaccines. I can’t believe people would even think that!
  - cjbgkagh 4y ago
    I got pericarditis after the booster, it felt like it was going to turn into a heart attack at any moment. I’m fanatical about my health so I could easily imagine others who are less careful getting a heart attack from the vaccine. And due to the anti-vax stigma I’m sure it’s under reported. But I’m assuming covid dominates the deaths.
  - NewJazz 4y ago
    Wouldn't Israel, the most highly vaccinated nation on the planet, see a similar effect? Or other highly vaccinated groups?
    - jerlam 4y ago
      Israel isn't the most vaccinated nation on the planet; it was merely the one of the first to have access to vaccine doses. They're basically on par with the United States now: https://ourworldindata.org/explorers/coronavirus-data-explorer?facet=none&Metric=People+fully+vaccinated&Interval=7-day+rolling+average&Relative+to+Population=true&Color+by+test+positivity=false&country=USA~ITA~CAN~DEU~GBR~FRA~JPN~ISR~IND https://ourworldindata.org/explorers/coronavirus-data-explor...
      - CameronNemo 4y ago
        Hmm but that does not include boosters, which Israel was also proactive about distributing.
- ravel-bar-foo 4y ago
  Just to clarify for other people who were confused, life expectancy increased until 2019 inclusive, then nosedived. So Covid (or higher-order effects of Covid and the response) must be responsible.
stsmwg 4y ago
I found it especially confusing how certain numbers were presented as the 2019-2021 delta and others the 2020-2021 delta without any way of seeing all the data together. Thanks for linking to the original source as when I looked for it last night I found it difficult to find.

by sct202 4y ago

quenix 4y ago

The graph is quite shocking to me. Looks like the series was coasting around a constant 76.5-ish until 2019, where it completely nosedived twice in a row. Is this due to COVID?

colpabar 4y ago
Hard to say. What we know for sure is that it 100% does NOT have ANYTHING to do with the safe and effective vaccines. I can’t believe people would even think that!
- cjbgkagh 4y ago
  I got pericarditis after the booster, it felt like it was going to turn into a heart attack at any moment. I’m fanatical about my health so I could easily imagine others who are less careful getting a heart attack from the vaccine. And due to the anti-vax stigma I’m sure it’s under reported. But I’m assuming covid dominates the deaths.
- NewJazz 4y ago
  Wouldn't Israel, the most highly vaccinated nation on the planet, see a similar effect? Or other highly vaccinated groups?
  - jerlam 4y ago
    Israel isn't the most vaccinated nation on the planet; it was merely the one of the first to have access to vaccine doses. They're basically on par with the United States now: https://ourworldindata.org/explorers/coronavirus-data-explorer?facet=none&Metric=People+fully+vaccinated&Interval=7-day+rolling+average&Relative+to+Population=true&Color+by+test+positivity=false&country=USA~ITA~CAN~DEU~GBR~FRA~JPN~ISR~IND https://ourworldindata.org/explorers/coronavirus-data-explor...
    - CameronNemo 4y ago
      Hmm but that does not include boosters, which Israel was also proactive about distributing.
ravel-bar-foo 4y ago
Just to clarify for other people who were confused, life expectancy increased until 2019 inclusive, then nosedived. So Covid (or higher-order effects of Covid and the response) must be responsible.

stsmwg 4y ago

I found it especially confusing how certain numbers were presented as the 2019-2021 delta and others the 2020-2021 delta without any way of seeing all the data together. Thanks for linking to the original source as when I looked for it last night I found it difficult to find.