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Due to excess deaths from COVID, no doubt. Losing a few young people can reduce overall life expectancy by quite a bit.

VyseofArcadia 4y ago
Right. Over a million excess deaths in a short time will do that, and a non-negligible number were not elderly.
hotpotamus 4y ago
US life expectancy was falling well before COVID in spite of spending much more in PPP terms than any other country in the world on healthcare. The country seems to prefer to be fleeced than to consider other options that might be labeled as socialism.
- ilikehurdles 4y ago
  Slight decline vs a nosedive during the pandemic.
- fallingfrog 4y ago
  Everything you just said is true, but it could also be simultaneously true that most of the drop was due to covid. The two are related in fact- structuring your whole health care system to maximize profit no matter what the side effects might be makes it brittle in the face of a pandemic. Basically I'm saying that my statement, and your statement, are not contradictory but rather two sides of the same coin.
PeterStuer 4y ago
There is also worldwide an as yet unexplained 10% rise in non-covid surpluss mortality.
- VyseofArcadia 4y ago
  I suspect a decent chunk of that is unreported/deliberately obfuscated covid deaths.
  - SketchySeaBeast 4y ago
    I would imagine it's also 2nd order effects on the health system - delayed diagnosis, treatments, and surgeries. Full ER rooms means stroke patients don't get seen as fast, reluctance to interact with the medical system means treatment isn't sought, and devoting large swaths of hospitals to COVID patients means the "not an issue now but will be in a year" conditions aren't dealt with. I doubt many of these effects were avoidable, but it's still unfortunate.
  - PeterStuer 4y ago
    Could be, but as it turned out Covid deaths have been significantly overattributed, so that would been a vast reversal.
- davak 4y ago
  This is likely related to COVID as well, just indirectly. - Research has shown that recent COVID-19 infection increases risk of heart attacks, strokes, and a ton of other vascular diseases. - Overwhelmed hospital systems will have poorer outcomes in emergencies such as sepsis where time-based care is a huge factor. Worldwide sepsis mortality has gone up over the last two years, for example.

Right. Over a million excess deaths in a short time will do that, and a non-negligible number were not elderly.

US life expectancy was falling well before COVID in spite of spending much more in PPP terms than any other country in the world on healthcare. The country seems to prefer to be fleeced than to consider other options that might be labeled as socialism.

ilikehurdles 4y ago
Slight decline vs a nosedive during the pandemic.
fallingfrog 4y ago
Everything you just said is true, but it could also be simultaneously true that most of the drop was due to covid. The two are related in fact- structuring your whole health care system to maximize profit no matter what the side effects might be makes it brittle in the face of a pandemic. Basically I'm saying that my statement, and your statement, are not contradictory but rather two sides of the same coin.

PeterStuer 4y ago

There is also worldwide an as yet unexplained 10% rise in non-covid surpluss mortality.

VyseofArcadia 4y ago
I suspect a decent chunk of that is unreported/deliberately obfuscated covid deaths.
- SketchySeaBeast 4y ago
  I would imagine it's also 2nd order effects on the health system - delayed diagnosis, treatments, and surgeries. Full ER rooms means stroke patients don't get seen as fast, reluctance to interact with the medical system means treatment isn't sought, and devoting large swaths of hospitals to COVID patients means the "not an issue now but will be in a year" conditions aren't dealt with. I doubt many of these effects were avoidable, but it's still unfortunate.
- PeterStuer 4y ago
  Could be, but as it turned out Covid deaths have been significantly overattributed, so that would been a vast reversal.
davak 4y ago
This is likely related to COVID as well, just indirectly. - Research has shown that recent COVID-19 infection increases risk of heart attacks, strokes, and a ton of other vascular diseases. - Overwhelmed hospital systems will have poorer outcomes in emergencies such as sepsis where time-based care is a huge factor. Worldwide sepsis mortality has gone up over the last two years, for example.