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I never said people were dumb. I'm not talking about how people are dumb. The key word in your paragraph is "easily." People want everything to be easy. They w

I never said people were dumb. I'm not talking about how people are dumb. The key word in your paragraph is "easily." People want everything to be easy. They want to be entertained easily. Yesteryear it was TV, today it's twitter. If that's not for you then the things they use are not for you, and it not being easy is a part of that, that's all I'm saying. I can play solitare without ads right now. And if I can, they can. But they don't. And they're who all this stuff we complain about is built for. It's not built for me, you know how I know? Because I don't use it and it's continuing along just fine. They don't bitch about the difficulty of the things they don't use that I do, things that are made for me and not them, they just use what works for them. If you don't like the things made for them, use different things, that's my only point.

noobermin 4y ago
Those people existed in 2005 and Microsoft released solitaire without ads in it for them and me. Now Microsoft does not. As far as I am concerned, I could play solitaire without ads and I still do today but it's harder and requires more steps. Again, I don't know how non-technical people's existence influences the garbage IT companies now put out and have gotten appliance makers to put out because they always existed! The only thing I can recognized as changing is just a profit-minded decision by IT companies (and even there, the jury is somewhat out, but that's another discussion). Talking about people who don't know to look harder is not even the issue or relevant. I apologize for being miffed about the "stupid people" talk because it is somewhat presumptous to me, but at the very least I want to submit that I don't understand how that knowledge helps me or anyone at all who has to deal with the garbage the tech companies put out now. As far as I can tell, things that were easy for me years ago are harder now. It doesn't mean I don't still make things work for me because I still do like likely most HN readers, but I did not have to do half of these things 10 years ago but I have to now. I cannot blame "stupid people" because "stupid people" didn't make my computer, my OS, or my air filter, but developers at IT companies did. That to me is the more interesting conversation is because they're the actual responsible party.
- ynniv 4y ago
  This might be spam, but I also like playing solitaire and hate ads, so I made solitairesport.com. It's simple and has some bugs, but plays well enough on mobile and costs me essentially nothing. Few people use it because buying ads cost money. Maybe a search engine that could remove hits that contained ads would help mobe things in the right direction.

noobermin 4y ago

Those people existed in 2005 and Microsoft released solitaire without ads in it for them and me. Now Microsoft does not. As far as I am concerned, I could play solitaire without ads and I still do today but it's harder and requires more steps. Again, I don't know how non-technical people's existence influences the garbage IT companies now put out and have gotten appliance makers to put out because they always existed! The only thing I can recognized as changing is just a profit-minded decision by IT companies (and even there, the jury is somewhat out, but that's another discussion). Talking about people who don't know to look harder is not even the issue or relevant. I apologize for being miffed about the "stupid people" talk because it is somewhat presumptous to me, but at the very least I want to submit that I don't understand how that knowledge helps me or anyone at all who has to deal with the garbage the tech companies put out now. As far as I can tell, things that were easy for me years ago are harder now. It doesn't mean I don't still make things work for me because I still do like likely most HN readers, but I did not have to do half of these things 10 years ago but I have to now. I cannot blame "stupid people" because "stupid people" didn't make my computer, my OS, or my air filter, but developers at IT companies did. That to me is the more interesting conversation is because they're the actual responsible party.

ynniv 4y ago
This might be spam, but I also like playing solitaire and hate ads, so I made solitairesport.com. It's simple and has some bugs, but plays well enough on mobile and costs me essentially nothing. Few people use it because buying ads cost money. Maybe a search engine that could remove hits that contained ads would help mobe things in the right direction.