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Jdee is a pile of garbage which made me quit emacs twice before finally ignoring the package altogether on my third (successful) attempt to switch. While other

by parfe 15y ago

Jdee is a pile of garbage which made me quit emacs twice before finally ignoring the package altogether on my third (successful) attempt to switch. While other deb packages exhibit the same symptoms from time to time, jdee specifically doesn't surprise me. JDEE has the midas touch but instead of gold you get shit. I feel pity for the debian package maintainer attempting to salvage such a horrible mess of code. I didn't realize how angry JDEE made me. Two years passed since I tried to use it and that package can still bring out some latent rage.

jiggy2011 15y ago
Is it a pile of garbage because it is hard to install , or because it isn't very useful? Is it worse than say eclipse?
- parfe 15y ago
  I never had a fully functional install of JDEE, so I won't compare it to eclipse. Configuring JDEE itself gave me nightmares. From what I remember, I would set variables to the proper VM and experience no change. At the time I gave up on JDEE I had the opportunity to switch to Python and I never looked back at Java. I think JDEE suffers from being too large with too many dependencies. Emacs configurations make almost every install unique and I think the maintainers of emacs projects in general have a hard time supporting users because people generally stop writing documentation when "It works for me." The same way you find your keys in the last place you look. For instance http://jdee.sourceforge.net/install.html http://jdee.sourceforge.net/install.html Download the latest versions of Eric Ludlam's speedbar, eieio, and semantic bovinator packages and install them on your system, each in their own directory. You can download these packages from SourceForge. Note Emacs and XEmacs include earlier versions of speedbar that are incompatible with the JDEE. You must delete the earlier version or ensure that it is not on the Emacs load path. Otherwise you will get a Lisp error when trying to start Emacs. That documentation might have made sense at the time. but I'm currently using emacs 23.3.1. Is my version of speedbar still out of date? Do I have to downgrade it? Upgrade it? http://cedet.sourceforge.net/ http://cedet.sourceforge.net/ The cedet page for getting those "newer" packages only provides download links to the entire cedet package. And without version references in the documentation how can I tell if my debian installed version might be good enough?

by parfe 15y ago

jiggy2011 15y ago

Is it a pile of garbage because it is hard to install , or because it isn't very useful? Is it worse than say eclipse?

parfe 15y ago
I never had a fully functional install of JDEE, so I won't compare it to eclipse. Configuring JDEE itself gave me nightmares. From what I remember, I would set variables to the proper VM and experience no change. At the time I gave up on JDEE I had the opportunity to switch to Python and I never looked back at Java. I think JDEE suffers from being too large with too many dependencies. Emacs configurations make almost every install unique and I think the maintainers of emacs projects in general have a hard time supporting users because people generally stop writing documentation when "It works for me." The same way you find your keys in the last place you look. For instance http://jdee.sourceforge.net/install.html http://jdee.sourceforge.net/install.html Download the latest versions of Eric Ludlam's speedbar, eieio, and semantic bovinator packages and install them on your system, each in their own directory. You can download these packages from SourceForge. Note Emacs and XEmacs include earlier versions of speedbar that are incompatible with the JDEE. You must delete the earlier version or ensure that it is not on the Emacs load path. Otherwise you will get a Lisp error when trying to start Emacs. That documentation might have made sense at the time. but I'm currently using emacs 23.3.1. Is my version of speedbar still out of date? Do I have to downgrade it? Upgrade it? http://cedet.sourceforge.net/ http://cedet.sourceforge.net/ The cedet page for getting those "newer" packages only provides download links to the entire cedet package. And without version references in the documentation how can I tell if my debian installed version might be good enough?