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You and GP's point is that these applications win on the merits of their user experience. That's not wrong, in fact I'd say that's absolutely true. But it's im

You and GP's point is that these applications win on the merits of their user experience. That's not wrong, in fact I'd say that's absolutely true. But it's important to call out that the user experience most people care about has almost nothing to do with whether or not software is open/hackable. Because of that, I would suggest it is realistic that a decade or two from now we could largely lose that feature, and find we have 100% proprietary cloud-based IDEs.

brundolf 4y ago
Yes, we could end up in a world some day where most people are using 100% proprietary cloud-based IDEs. But then, at worst, we're back where we started. All the open-source foundations we have now will still be there (plus any open bits from the cloud editors, like Monaco and LSP). Anyone sufficiently motivated to avoid using these cloud-based IDEs will have just as many options as they do today, and probably more. I just don't see how this is a loss.
Ferret7446 4y ago
>But it's important to call out that the user experience most people care about has almost nothing to do with whether or not software is open/hackable. For software developers I think that's a damn shame. Craftsmen have always made their tools suit themselves. If you aren't hacking your development tools, you're missing out, and if that opportunity is lost due to closed IDEs, that really sucks.