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> As a further example, VSCode is sweeping aside a whole bunch of absolutely garbage embedded programming environments, and I assure you nobody is crying any te

> As a further example, VSCode is sweeping aside a whole bunch of absolutely garbage embedded programming environments, and I assure you nobody is crying any tears for them. Quick point about embedded: in my short summer internship where I was working on some STM32 hardware, I was quickly exposed to the plethora of semi-proprietary embedded IDEs which were themselves based on FOSS IDEs and editors (STM32CubeIDE, MBED Studio, etc). Why do these even exist? It boggles the mind. These companies (NXP, STM, Infineon, TI, Nordic, MBED, etc) spend money on maintaining all this software and paying their own developers/contracting this IDE development work out. In the end, they're just glorified Makefile + C/C++ linters and editors. On the other hand, I had a particularly pleasant time writing embedded and remote C++ with CLion (it's still proprietary, but it's really good). I was writing a client C++ application running on the Raspberry Pi (cross-compiled, and remotely debugged) to communicate with an STM32 (also cross-compiled, and debugged with a probe). The debugging experience was glorious. One breakpoint in the client triggered another in the STM32, and everything was just completely seamless.

bsder 4y ago
> Why do these even exist? Because there existed a time before ARM, 32-bit processors, and gcc made embedded a monoculture like x86. Because there existed a time before IDEs converged via Language Server Protocol. This was predictable back when VSCode first came out. Microsoft was pouring more development resource into VSCode that many of those semiconductor companies entire revenue. Either you got on the VSCode train or you were going to get swept aside. The fact that everybody is whining about proprietary Microsoft remote development plugins while emacs tramp lsp-mode remains broken for an enormous number of cases for years says it all (this is finally what pried emacs out from under my fingers as I got tired of debugging it).

bsder 4y ago

> Why do these even exist? Because there existed a time before ARM, 32-bit processors, and gcc made embedded a monoculture like x86. Because there existed a time before IDEs converged via Language Server Protocol. This was predictable back when VSCode first came out. Microsoft was pouring more development resource into VSCode that many of those semiconductor companies entire revenue. Either you got on the VSCode train or you were going to get swept aside. The fact that everybody is whining about proprietary Microsoft remote development plugins while emacs tramp lsp-mode remains broken for an enormous number of cases for years says it all (this is finally what pried emacs out from under my fingers as I got tired of debugging it).